Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?

[Robittybob1]

Yvonne Martin should not have been asking any questions.  The police hadn't even had a chance to interview any one ... why on earth do you and this woman think she had any right to contaminate the witnesses and be asking questions like that?

Her behaviour is not only unprofessional it is bizarre.

At that stage the PJ were still thinking in terms of wandering off.  Why would you think the witnesses were being contaminated?

[Miss Taken Identity]

You make terrific assumptions about this woman and exactly what cases her bosses might allow her to handle.
What exactly do you know about her?

About her? oh nothing at all.  Just if she was in child protection, and they were in the UK then the McCanns and Tapas story would have been very, very different indeed. If she wasn't assigned to the case she would have certainly been involved in an initial report. and just so you all know  those children would have been removed and questioned. VERY intensly over a period of time. That is NOT an assumption That is a fact.

[Robittybob1]

Think about it very carefully ... in a similar scenario anywhere in Great Britain ... would that woman have been allowed under the incident tape?  Would she even have followed a police vehicle through and chanced her arm with a go at the witnesses?
I rather think not.

My understanding was they spoke to YM outside.  Probably beyond any PJ taped off areas.  The McCanns still had another apartment for privacy.

[Lace]

Thank you. I can't see the bit where it says that the forth person played any part in separating her (Yvonne) from the McCanns.

It is there towards the bottom.

[Brietta]

She left when she was asked to.  What I see was a voluntary situation.  She approached the McCanns they agreed to talk to her, they accepted her credentials, but after a discussion with DP (I think that is agreed) DP informed her they didn't want to talk to her any more and she left.

OK she didn't like it and got DP checked out, but his record was OK AFAIK.

She didn't leave immediately though if I remember correctly ... apparently she had other fish to fry and it had nothing at all to do with looking out for the best interests of the McCann children or the others in their party.

[Lace]

She didn't leave immediately though if I remember correctly ... apparently she had other fish to fry and it had nothing at all to do with looking out for the best interests of the McCann children or the others in their party.

Went on to write an anonymous letter saying she thought the McCann's had had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance!!    Amazing!!

[Brietta]

About her? oh nothing at all.  Just if she was in child protection, and they were in the UK then the McCanns and Tapas story would have been very, very different indeed. If she wasn't assigned to the case she would have certainly been involved in an initial report. and just so you all know  those children would have been removed and questioned. VERY intensly over a period of time. That is NOT an assumption That is a fact.

You know nothing?  Yet you pontificate on this woman's expertise?

[Robittybob1]

Thank you. I can't see the bit where it says that the forth person played any part in separating her (Yvonne) from the McCanns.

That depends on who is doing the counting.  "Meanwhile a fourth individual came towards the group and identified himself as a journalist. The witness alerted the couple to the type of statements they should give and that it would be better for them to keep silent.

At this moment, the third person, who was always near to the couple and the witness, moved the couple away from her and the three of them talked in whispers for some time.

After this, and leaving the couple behind him, he approached the witness and told her that the couple did not want to speak any more with her, nor with anyone else.

The witness replied to him that if the McCann couple felt the need to talk to her later, she would be at their total disposal."

That is counting from YM POV where she is not counting herself.

[kizzy]

Went on to write an anonymous letter saying she thought the McCann's had had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance!!    Amazing!!

IMO

Not really, recon the police have had thousands of letters like that , and the mccanns

[Robittybob1]

You know nothing?  Yet you pontificate on this woman's expertise?

YM had decades of experience.

[Brietta]

My understanding was they spoke to YM outside.  Probably beyond any PJ taped off areas.  The McCanns still had another apartment for privacy.

She went in on the coat tails of a police vehicle.  She could have been anyone.

[Brietta]

YM had decades of experience.

The word I used was expertise.

[Lace]

That depends on who is doing the counting.  "Meanwhile a fourth individual came towards the group and identified himself as a journalist. The witness alerted the couple to the type of statements they should give and that it would be better for them to keep silent.

At this moment, the third person, who was always near to the couple and the witness, moved the couple away from her and the three of them talked in whispers for some time.

After this, and leaving the couple behind him, he approached the witness and told her that the couple did not want to speak any more with her, nor with anyone else.

The witness replied to him that if the McCann couple felt the need to talk to her later, she would be at their total disposal."

That is counting from YM POV where she is not counting herself.

The third person is David Payne,   the fourth person is the journalist.

[Robittybob1]

Went on to write an anonymous letter saying she thought the McCann's had had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance!!    Amazing!!

Do we see what was in the anonymous letter?  I don't think we do.  I think you are wrong to say YM "went on to write an anonymous letter saying she thought the McCann's had had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance".

[Lace]

IMO

Not really, recon the police have had thousands of letters like that , and the mccanns

I said 'amazing'  because she spent a short time questioning the McCann's,  then came to the conclusion they might have had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance.