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Offline Carana

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2018, 04:27:49 PM »
To some extent, I find myself in a half-way house over this.

My conclusion is that it's a non-issue.

Offline jassi

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2018, 04:33:22 PM »
To some extent, I find myself in a half-way house over this.

My conclusion is that it's a non-issue.

Precisely
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2018, 04:37:36 PM »
Broadly speaking, she didn't get a chance. Would have been better leaving well alone.
Doesn't explain your general animosity towards her though.

Yes, very strange indeed. like taking it personally. Especially as Ms Martin was only trying to offer help...

I sometimes get the feeling on this forum that some have an unhealthy obsession with the family... just an observation, there is no real balance in their thinking. Strange indeed. IMVHO
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2018, 04:43:38 PM »
You can't just have every Tom dick and Harry interfering... As you found out when you offered your, assistance to SY and the McCanns
Total and utter tosh.

SY may or may not have found my information of interest.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2018, 12:35:00 AM by John »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2018, 04:45:38 PM »
Yes, very strange indeed. like taking it personally. Especially as Ms Martin was only trying to offer help...

I sometimes get the feeling on this forum that some have an unhealthy obsession with the family... just an observation, there is no real balance in their thinking. Strange indeed. IMVHO

It isn't the family... It's a healthy interest in justice..you are, quite mistaken... Mistaken

Offline jassi

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2018, 04:51:01 PM »
Yes, very strange indeed. like taking it personally. Especially as Ms Martin was only trying to offer help...

I sometimes get the feeling on this forum that some have an unhealthy obsession with the family... just an observation, there is no real balance in their thinking. Strange indeed. IMVHO

I share that feeling - there seems, to me, a deep commitment among supporters, while us sceptics tend to just be thorns in their flesh - irritants that they can't ignore.   ?{)(**
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carana

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #186 on: February 28, 2018, 04:53:36 PM »
On the other hand, lots of people have offered their "assistance".

And that has included people colluding to spam police appeal lines and spontaneous derogatory comments on certain books...

That's not fair, either, IMO.

And, no, don't even bother asking me to provide proof.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2018, 04:56:51 PM by Carana »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #187 on: February 28, 2018, 05:06:27 PM »
Rob, check out the correspondence between lawyers acting on behalf of the UK police forces and the PJ authorities. The UK side went ballistic at news that PT tabloids were about to publish further confidential information. In the light of that, then re-read the strategy analysis report.
Have you got a URL or a name to start it off.please?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #188 on: February 28, 2018, 05:10:50 PM »
Just as there would be no expectation of unwarranted interference from an off duty British police officer ... there would be no expectation of unwarranted interference from any other professional whatever their discipline.

Worth bearing in mind that "fools rush in where angels fear to tread."

Also:
"He is a good man but he does nothing. His inaction is often the handmaid of evil".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #189 on: February 28, 2018, 05:22:48 PM »
In my opinion, broadly speaking she made plenty of time to hang around and interrogate the resort manager???

Did she use her professional skills to ascertain the condition of the children and how she could be of assistance to them?
In the absence of evidence that she did ...what exactly do you suppose was her motivation ... given her children and families background?

Snip
She adds that, after having spoken to the McCann couple, she spoke to the resort manager, and after identifying herself, asked him whether there had been a break-in in the apartment where the child was, to which he replied no but that the door was open as were the window blinds, which, according to Kate, should have been closed but were found open.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/YVONNE-WARREN-MARTIN.htm

I think we need to analyse that and get the true meaning from it. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #190 on: February 28, 2018, 05:27:14 PM »
To some extent, I find myself in a half-way house over this.

My conclusion is that it's a non-issue.
No I disagree, even in the little bit of contact she had Yvonne got Kate's concern about "why a couple would take her daughter".
Speaking to the resort manager she got information prior to the Tapas 9 initial statements in fact prior to anyone's statements.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #191 on: February 28, 2018, 05:29:33 PM »
It isn't the family... It's a healthy interest in justice..you are, quite mistaken... Mistaken

No, I don't think it is  an interest in justice.

To be interested in justice in this case you should be independent in all analysis and free in your thinking. a closed mind learns nothing. So what can a closed mind contribute? to find this justice you so crave?

Justice for Madeleine Beth McCann is what this should be about. Not protecting parents reputation and slagging everyone who tried to help-as it is now.

No one knows what happened- her parents may or may not be involved. Not knowing should be a clue here about closed minds.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2018, 05:34:55 PM »
No, I don't think it is  an interest in justice.

To be interested in justice in this case you should be independent in all analysis and free in your thinking. a closed mind learns nothing. So what can a closed mind contribute? to find this justice you so crave?

Justice for Madeleine Beth McCann is what this should be about. Not protecting parents reputation and slagging everyone who tried to help-as it is now.

No one knows what happened- her parents may or may not be involved. Not knowing should be a clue here about closed minds.

I don't have a closed mind... That's your first incorrect assumption.... I'm open to any real evidence that points to the criminal involvement of the parents... There isn't any..

Justice requires evidence... That's where you and the dogs don't lie brigade need to start


« Last Edit: February 28, 2018, 05:49:47 PM by Davel »


Offline Erngath

Re: Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?
« Reply #194 on: February 28, 2018, 06:01:20 PM »
To some extent, I find myself in a half-way house over this.

My conclusion is that it's a non-issue.


As is much of the content of so many threads.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.