Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?

[Robittybob1]

You must admit, though, that its kept the forum going for another week.
Where would we be without Rob's topic of the day ?

Even for myself it has been getting harder to see what we should discuss next.

[Eleanor]

Even for myself it has been getting harder to see what we should discuss next.

I shall not repeat my son's reply to this  comment.

[misty]

I shall not repeat my son's reply to this  comment.

I think you should.......

[Eleanor]

I think you should.......

"If this is the case then you are all f*cked."

[Robittybob1]

Looks as though it's Robert Murat who has the scar not David Payne.

How on earth could Yvonne Martin think that David Payne could be the person carrying a child,  he has receding hair and glasses!!

But we covered this once before, these assessments of similarity aren't  fact they are opinion.  David Payne and Tannerman both male  - that could have been enough.

[Robittybob1]

I didn't say Yvonne Martin's behaviour was appalling.

And Eleanor didn't say you said "Yvonne Martin's behaviour was appalling".  At least we have cleared that up.

[Robittybob1]

IMO YM saw both Murat & Payne that morning at different times & got confused when recalling her first meeting with Kate.

In "madeleine" Kate described her meeting with YM & DP was certainly the person who ushered her away. Kate also wrote "This woman would pop up several times in the days & months to come & I still don't really know who she is or what she was trying to achieve".
In the very next paragraph, Kate referred to Stephen Carpenter returning with Murat, who had offered to translate, which fits the timing of both YM & RM.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm
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 On Friday, 04/05, woke around 09:00, took a bath, went to the kitchen to his mother, the latter told him that something terrible had happened, because a child had disappeared in Praia da Luz, according to 'Sky News' that she had been watching. At once the respondent and his Mother went to look in the garden, walled with a fence of 1m in height, checking if the child had managed to enter, which in a way was almost impossible without aid. In one corner of the garden is a greenhouse, which was searched, and then they saw an English passer-by on the outside, he does not know the identity. When asked about this, he was told that the child had disappeared. Accompanied by that person, he went to the place of the disappearance, and was introduced to the parents of the child, as he spoke the two languages, Portuguese and English.

So at 9:30 RM was checking out his own section not down at apartment 5A.

[Robittybob1]

"If this is the case then you are all f*cked."

That is so true, if I can't think of another topic this case is f*cked.

[sadie]

Would you say Murat has a round face?

Murat has a long slim face
Given his hair back, Payne has a roundish face

FACT

[Eleanor]

That is so true, if I can't think of another topic this case is f*cked.

He meant The Forum, Darling.  But he has great faith in you.  So onwards and upwards.

[kizzy]

Murat has a long slim face
Given his hair back, Payne has a roundish face

FACT

 .......sorry... his toupee seems to have slipped

[barrier]

That is so true, if I can't think of another topic this case is f*cked.

Case or forum?

[barrier]

He meant The Forum, Darling.  But he has great faith in you.  So onwards and upwards.

When at times one looks in and see's posters out numbered 2 to one by the blue presence he's not far wrong.

[Robittybob1]

Murat has a long slim face
Given his hair back, Payne has a roundish face

FACT

She is amazing really "She describes him as tall man, height about 1,80 m, about 35 years old, of normal physical complexion, with short, dark hair, with a round face and with a scar on the left side of his face running from the eyebrow to the check. He uses graduated glasses of small dimension with rectangular lenses. He spoke with a southern English accent and was wearing cream coloured trousers and a dark polo shirt"  Leaves the Smiths for dead!

[Mr Gray]

I am rather baffled by the trite supporter argument that their appallingly abusive behaviour is justified by the appalling behaviour of a third party.
That is hardly the action of the super intelligentsia supporters purport to be now is it?

As, you admit... You are baffled.. I'm certainly  not