Yvonne Martin - how much information did she really uncover?

[Robittybob1]

The PJ were not impressed by Yvonne Martin.  End of story.

She didn't have enough to work with.  They were impressed with her.  absolutely IMO.  They didn't go and lose her file.

[Robittybob1]

I can't imagine why you think they might be worried about having the twins taken away. According to Kate they hadn't been worrying about anything like that;

the barrister first of all assured us that our behaviour could not be deemed negligent and was indeed ‘well within the bounds of reasonable parenting’. This had hardly been our biggest concern, but it was reassuring to hear, all the same. [madeleine]

I don't remember that quote, bit is important to note whether that was a Portuguese barrister or an English one.

There has been an ongoing debate whether the law on child care would be applied differently in the two countries.

[Robittybob1]

Nope it most certainly does not back it up:  John stalker was at a loss to understand why the McCanns and their friends maintained their silence in the face of the press onslaught directed at them.

The simple reason was that they would have been breaking the Portuguese law of Judicial secrecy ... had they spoken out they had been warned they would face prosecution.

Which is super helpful if you were hiding a big secret.

[G-Unit]

Experience is a very important attribute in social work;
https://www.iriss.org.uk/sites/default/files/2016-07/iriss-decision-making-social-work-scotland-evidence-practice-wisdom-2011-09-27.pdf

[Robittybob1]

SY have brought nothing to the inquiry which sort of says it all.

Had she been allowed a couple of hours I reckon the outcome could have been different.

[jassi]

Had she been allowed a couple of hours I reckon the outcome could have been different.

Outcome for whom?

[Mr Gray]

SY have brought nothing to the inquiry which sort of says it all.

As I said John... Critical of the professionals... But supportive of someone who had no place being there at all..

[Robittybob1]

Outcome for whom?

For Madeleine of course, as long as the PJ didn't just ignore that extra information.

[Mr Gray]

For Madeleine of course, as long as the PJ didn't just ignore that extra information.

In what way different

[Robittybob1]

In what way different

You should be able to think of it too.  Prevention and early intervention rather than ignoring the situation - what difference does it make?

[Mr Gray]

You should be able to think of it too.  Prevention and early intervention rather than ignoring the situation - what difference does it make?

Well I can't so you need to explain... What good would a social worker asking more questions have done... Al I can see is, an absolutely  ridiculous suggestion

[jassi]

For Madeleine of course, as long as the PJ didn't just ignore that extra information.

I don't think so. She was far beyond any help by the time Yvonne turned up.  IMO

[Mr Gray]

I don't think so. She was far beyond any help by the time Yvonne turned up.  IMO

Of course she was... Miles away

[G-Unit]

Nope it most certainly does not back it up:  John stalker was at a loss to understand why the McCanns and their friends maintained their silence in the face of the press onslaught directed at them.

The simple reason was that they would have been breaking the Portuguese law of Judicial secrecy ... had they spoken out they had been warned they would face prosecution.

Judicial Secrecy has been frequently mentioned, hasn't it? I for one just wish that the person interviewing Dianne Webster had finished their sentence;

4078    “You also, when we spoke earlier, expressed a sense of frustration about the fact that you’d all been banned by the Super (inaudible).”

Reply    “That’s right, yes.”
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

What is a Super (inaudible)? It seems to have banned them all from doing something.

 

[slartibartfast]

Judicial Secrecy has been frequently mentioned, hasn't it? I for one just wish that the person interviewing Dianne Webster had finished their sentence;

4078    “You also, when we spoke earlier, expressed a sense of frustration about the fact that you’d all been banned by the Super (inaudible).”

Reply    “That’s right, yes.”
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm

What is a Super (inaudible)? It seems to have banned them all from doing something.

I wonder.