Author Topic: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?  (Read 30990 times)

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #120 on: March 03, 2018, 10:52:37 AM »
Martin had just seen Gerry on TV (probably several times), and he had heard that he had been made Arguido. 

Carana, or maybe Rob, pointed out that having seen Gerry on TV  and just learned that he had been made arguido, would very likely influence his memory perception of what Smithman looked like.   The lighting was so bad that he didn't see Smithman very well anyway.

It was an action replay of the night that triggered it. In his opinion that was the man he had seen and he couldn't sleep well for days worrying over it.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #121 on: March 03, 2018, 11:04:22 AM »
It was an action replay of the night that triggered it. In his opinion that was the man he had seen and he couldn't sleep well for days worrying over it.

And what about all the people who have seen Maddie... She must have been everywhere

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #122 on: March 03, 2018, 11:12:56 AM »
It was an action replay of the night that triggered it. In his opinion that was the man he had seen and he couldn't sleep well for days worrying over it.
In the experience of those who study memory those issues are not correlated to a correct memory.  There are other factors causing this sleeplessness IMO.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #123 on: March 03, 2018, 11:31:12 AM »
And what about all the people who have seen Maddie... She must have been everywhere

Well if we discount all those sightings that were distant in time and space or have been proved false alarms...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline sadie

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #124 on: March 03, 2018, 11:52:46 AM »
Well if we discount all those sightings that were distant in time and space or have been proved false alarms...
Why should we discount sightings that were distant in time or space ?

Madeleine could be anywhere in the world .... Anywhere.

Offline faithlilly

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #125 on: March 03, 2018, 12:00:56 PM »
Doesn't matter how sure he was according to the statements by both sets of investigators he was mistaken... Strange how you dismiss the ID evidence of the many people who have seen Maddie but you seem to think the one suspected... But not sure sighting of Gerry is somehow significant

It’s not me who thinks this sighting, along with the efits produced, is significant, OG do.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #126 on: March 03, 2018, 12:58:09 PM »
It’s not me who thinks this sighting, along with the efits produced, is significant, OG do.

Of course they do. Whilst the man + child the Smith family allegedly saw remains unidentified, there is always the possibility that he was the person who took Madeleine. IMO he will never be identified & SY/PJ are working on a different lead.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #127 on: March 03, 2018, 01:05:02 PM »
It’s not me who thinks this sighting, along with the efits produced, is significant, OG do.
As misty said... The sighting is significant and could well be Maddie being abducted... But as Gerry is not a, suspect OG obviously  don't think it's gerry

Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #128 on: March 03, 2018, 01:08:38 PM »
Well if we discount all those sightings that were distant in time and space or have been proved false alarms...

There are still plenty of sightings that have not been possible to discount... At least I am consistent.... All of these sightings... Including Smiths belief he saw Gerry are notoriously unreliable... Sceptics seem to think Smiths sighting is reliable but all the ones of maddie are unreliable... That line of thinking is not logical

Offline faithlilly

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #129 on: March 03, 2018, 01:12:58 PM »
As misty said... The sighting is significant and could well be Maddie being abducted... But as Gerry is not a, suspect OG obviously  don't think it's gerry

And as I have said, in the first Portuguese investigation, the McCanns were not suspects right up until they were.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #130 on: March 03, 2018, 01:39:48 PM »
And as I have said, in the first Portuguese investigation, the McCanns were not suspects right up until they were.
All the evidence that was used to make the McCann's suspects was not consolidated... Ie they should never have been made arguidis... They were because amaral and his team misunderstood the evidence... I don't see the present team making the, same mistake


Offline faithlilly

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #131 on: March 03, 2018, 01:51:14 PM »
All the evidence that was used to make the McCann's suspects was not consolidated... Ie they should never have been made arguidis... They were because amaral and his team misunderstood the evidence... I don't see the present team making the, same mistake

I don’t see them making the same mistake either Davel. I think when the PJ, ably assisted by OG, make their move they will make sure that they have a cast iron case this time.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #132 on: March 03, 2018, 02:02:08 PM »
All the evidence that was used to make the McCann's suspects was not consolidated... Ie they should never have been made arguidis... They were because amaral and his team misunderstood the evidence... I don't see the present team making the, same mistake

Police don't forewarn suspects as you will find out.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline faithlilly

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #133 on: March 03, 2018, 02:16:36 PM »
Police don't forewarn suspects as you will find out.

Indeed PF. It is ridiculous to think otherwise.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #134 on: March 03, 2018, 05:12:14 PM »
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