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Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #180 on: March 04, 2018, 06:14:49 PM »
They would have had new evidence to get the case reopened.

With which police force to chase up any leads, or get search warrants, at the time?

Offline jassi

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #181 on: March 04, 2018, 06:15:57 PM »
It would not be guaranteed.

They employed that chap Edgar. He could have pretended he was a police officer.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #182 on: March 04, 2018, 06:18:49 PM »
They employed that chap Edgar. He could have pretended he was a police officer.
You must feel better now that you have that off your chest.
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Offline jassi

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #183 on: March 04, 2018, 06:21:57 PM »
You must feel better now that you have that off your chest.

I do. I do  @)(++(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #184 on: March 04, 2018, 06:23:46 PM »
With which police force to chase up any leads, or get search warrants, at the time?

As we are told, all the PJ needed was new evidence.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #185 on: March 04, 2018, 06:35:00 PM »
As we are told, all the PJ needed was new evidence.

Didn't amaral claim all it needed was a stamp on a letter .. But what did he know

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #186 on: March 04, 2018, 08:06:30 PM »
I do. I do  @)(++(*
In Dave Edgar's opinion it would be possible to work out why you said "I do" twice?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #187 on: March 05, 2018, 06:51:10 AM »
Had they released the efits & identified the man, who would have questioned him?

When they released the e-fit of the Victoria Beckham look-alike who would have questioned her, had she been identified?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #188 on: March 05, 2018, 07:03:42 AM »
This is Opinion as Fact.  Please don't force me to Delete this.

It's fact that Kate thought the two sightings were of the same man.
It's fact that the e-fits were of that man.
It's fact that the Fund had them in 2008.
It's opinion that the man committed the crime of stealing Madeleine from her bed, but it's not my opinion.
It's fact that they didn't publicise the e-fits.

Kate thought the man took Madeleine from her bed;

Who knows why there was a forty-five-minute gap between the two sightings, or where this man might have been in between? I long ago stopped trying to come up with answers because I don’t think I need to. If the child was Madeleine – and in four years, no father has ever come forward to say it was him and his daughter – why would we assume he would be behaving normally or logically? There is nothing normal about stealing a little girl from her bed. ]madeleine]
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #189 on: March 05, 2018, 07:18:14 AM »
When they released the e-fit of the Victoria Beckham look-alike who would have questioned her, had she been identified?
I suppose the PI's would or would they take it to SY for assistance?
The problem I also see is one maybe in Portugal and other one out of Portugal anywhere in the World.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #190 on: March 05, 2018, 08:44:08 AM »
I suppose the PI's would or would they take it to SY for assistance?
The problem I also see is one maybe in Portugal and other one out of Portugal anywhere in the World.

There was no active investigation by any police force at the time of the 'Victoria Beckham' appeal. In my opinion their chances of anyone identifying her were extremely slim anyway. The sighting was two years old, it took place at 2am, and there was nothing memorable about it; just a man and a woman having a short conversation. A lot of fuss about nothing much imo.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #191 on: March 05, 2018, 10:27:48 AM »
There was no active investigation by any police force at the time of the 'Victoria Beckham' appeal. In my opinion their chances of anyone identifying her were extremely slim anyway. The sighting was two years old, it took place at 2am, and there was nothing memorable about it; just a man and a woman having a short conversation. A lot of fuss about nothing much imo.
They did get some suspects nominated I read but the people identified just denied it,  They weren't there or they were too old to have been her.  So they must have followed up some leads themselves.
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Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #192 on: March 05, 2018, 10:59:44 AM »
Didn't amaral claim all it needed was a stamp on a letter .. But what did he know

Yes, he did actually. At least according to an exclusive interview with "McCannfiles"...

Mr Amaral believes that the process will be reopened and "the material truth will be known" and is dismissive of the McCanns' petition for a review of the case.

"That is one of the misunderstandings that are created by the McCanns," he said, "they do not want the case to be reviewed, they merely want a review of the information that has been added after the shelving (sightings of the child).

"If they wanted the case to be reviewed, they would ask for the crime process and the investigation to be reopened, and they would supply all of the reports from the various private detectives that they have hired.

"To ask for the process to be reopened, all it would take is a letter to the Prosecutor, as it has already happened in so many other cases. It costs them nothing, just the stamp on the letter."

https://joana-morais.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/mccannfiles-exclusive-goncalo-amaral.html

There are articles in the penal process code governing the conditions for re-opening an investigation... Why he made it sound so simple is beyond me... or perhaps not.


Offline barrier

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #193 on: March 05, 2018, 11:10:45 AM »
There are articles in the penal process code governing the conditions for re-opening an investigation... Why he made it sound so simple is beyond me... or perhaps not.

Much the same as an application to the ECHR,it only needs a stamped letter to start a process,so simple in reality.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #194 on: March 05, 2018, 11:17:30 AM »
Much the same as an application to the ECHR,it only needs a stamped letter to start a process,so simple in reality.

But this was to get the Portuguese case reopened... Amaral was talking rubbish imo.
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