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Offline barrier

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #195 on: March 05, 2018, 11:21:29 AM »
But this was to get the Portuguese case reopened... Amaral was talking rubbish imo.

You know this to be true,why? the longest journey always starts with a small step,why should not this be the same,one simple letter to peak some ones interest.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #196 on: March 05, 2018, 11:26:21 AM »


"Your letter was only the start of it, one letter & now you're a part of it, now you've done it....."
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Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #197 on: March 05, 2018, 11:58:36 AM »
Much the same as an application to the ECHR,it only needs a stamped letter to start a process,so simple in reality.

I don't quite know what that could be based on, either.

Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #198 on: March 05, 2018, 12:03:50 PM »
You know this to be true,why? the longest journey always starts with a small step,why should not this be the same,one simple letter to peak some ones interest.

How does one "peak someone's interest" to get a shelved case reopened?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #199 on: March 05, 2018, 12:09:01 PM »
You know this to be true,why? the longest journey always starts with a small step,why should not this be the same,one simple letter to peak some ones interest.

Yes I know it to be true... The process could only be opened if new evidence came to light... A letter from the McCann's would not do it

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #200 on: March 05, 2018, 12:10:49 PM »
Yes I know it to be true... The process could only be opened if new evidence came to light... A letter from the McCann's would not do it

If that letter contained a confession, it would.
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Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #201 on: March 05, 2018, 12:39:46 PM »
If that letter contained a confession, it would.

That may well have been the meaning of GA's comment, IMO.

However, some choose to interpret that as "proof" that the McCanns never wanted a review of available evidence at all, and certainly not for the investigation to be reopened, and that they are therefore necessarily "guilty", because GA said that all they needed to do was put a stamp on a letter.

A few may feel that it was some kind of double-bluff, and never say never to a first instance, going on the offensive is the best form of defence and all that (possible), but that idea doesn't seem to have materialised despite two currently open investigations.

Offline Brietta

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #202 on: March 05, 2018, 02:13:01 PM »
That may well have been the meaning of GA's comment, IMO.

However, some choose to interpret that as "proof" that the McCanns never wanted a review of available evidence at all, and certainly not for the investigation to be reopened, and that they are therefore necessarily "guilty", because GA said that all they needed to do was put a stamp on a letter.

A few may feel that it was some kind of double-bluff, and never say never to a first instance, going on the offensive is the best form of defence and all that (possible), but that idea doesn't seem to have materialised despite two currently open investigations.

Why go to the bother?

I doubt any identification evidence unless there was unequivocal proof would be admissible in court for the simple reason that the McCanns had had so much media exposure that it would have been unsafe.
Mr McCluskey's recollection was certainly muddied by such http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm and who is to say the same phenomenon didn't affect Mr Smith http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm whose family did not back up his opinion.

They didn't have to keep Madeleine in the public eye ... but they did.

They didn't have to raise funds to do that and to keep looking for her using PIs ... but they did.

They didn't have to write a book to boost the funds, they could have put all the income from their best seller into their own bank account as Amaral did ... but they did not.

They could have moved back home and dropped off the radar ... they loved their daughter too much not to continue looking for her ... but they kept her name to the fore despite the social media attacks they took as a result.

If that was all done as part of a double bluff ... in my opinion there would have been far easier and less expensive options both in money and emotion to do that ... and with a lot less effort.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #203 on: March 05, 2018, 02:19:34 PM »
Didn't amaral claim all it needed was a stamp on a letter .. But what did he know

Can you prove him wrong?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #204 on: March 05, 2018, 02:26:56 PM »
Can you prove him wrong?

Do you think I am wrong

Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #205 on: March 05, 2018, 02:31:21 PM »
Why go to the bother?

I doubt any identification evidence unless there was unequivocal proof would be admissible in court for the simple reason that the McCanns had had so much media exposure that it would have been unsafe.
Mr McCluskey's recollection was certainly muddied by such http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm and who is to say the same phenomenon didn't affect Mr Smith http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm whose family did not back up his opinion.

They didn't have to keep Madeleine in the public eye ... but they did.

They didn't have to raise funds to do that and to keep looking for her using PIs ... but they did.

They didn't have to write a book to boost the funds, they could have put all the income from their best seller into their own bank account as Amaral did ... but they did not.

They could have moved back home and dropped off the radar ... they loved their daughter too much not to continue looking for her ... but they kept her name to the fore despite the social media attacks they took as a result.

If that was all done as part of a double bluff ... in my opinion there would have been far easier and less expensive options both in money and emotion to do that ... and with a lot less effort.

I don't find the idea of some kind of double-bluff to be high on my list of probabilities, either, but I can accept it as a hypothetical possibility. For the moment, there doesn't appear to be anything to substantiate it.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #206 on: March 05, 2018, 04:44:49 PM »
I don't find the idea of some kind of double-bluff to be high on my list of probabilities, either, but I can accept it as a hypothetical possibility. For the moment, there doesn't appear to be anything to substantiate it.
I wonder if Amaral couldn't write the letter and just jet the McCanns to return it in a self addressed and prepaid envelope and make it even easier and less onerous on the McCanns?
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Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #207 on: March 05, 2018, 05:00:30 PM »
I wonder if Amaral couldn't write the letter and just get the McCanns to return it in a self addressed and prepaid envelope and make it even easier and less onerous on the McCanns?

Some pals tried, or said they did, or were going to. Or something.... you'd have to google the pink blanket as "shroud" saga.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #208 on: March 06, 2018, 06:54:54 AM »
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #209 on: March 06, 2018, 07:20:20 AM »
Some pals tried, or said they did, or were going to. Or something.... you'd have to google the pink blanket as "shroud" saga.
I find invitations to google a subject frustrating as I never know if the result I find was the one intended.
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