Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence

[kizzy]

Well i don't think it proves any thing


He did his job the dogs did the job they were trained to do.


I would think, M G credibility and the dogs, would have been zero

If maddie had been found alive.

If a body was found - things would have been different, it would   have been used as evidence.


edited as wrong post quoted.

[Carana]

Well i don't think it proves any thing


He did his job the dogs did the job they were trained to do.


I would think, M G credibility and the dogs, would have been zero

If maddie had been found alive.

If a body was found - things would have been different, it would   have been used as evidence.

If Madeleine had been found alive, would the video inspections have been leaked and uploaded?

[G-Unit]

I'm glad you have learnt something  from a thread I have introduced.. My understanding hasn't changed but it didn't need to

No, it's my opinion that you'll cling to and repeat your convictions that 'the alerts mean nothing' and 'the alerts weren't 'scientifically confirmed' despite the fact that the alerts do mean something and scientific confirmation has no bearing on that.

[faithlilly]

If Madeleine had been found alive, would the video inspections have been leaked and uploaded?

If she had been found alive the case wouldn’t have been archived and the files wouldn’t have been released until after any court case, if ever.

[Carana]

If she had been found alive the case wouldn’t have been archived and the files wouldn’t have been released until after any court case, if ever.

Perhaps we agree, then: the dog videos wouldn't have been uploaded and we wouldn't be rehashing their potential significance, or absence thereof, almost 10 years later.

[G-Unit]

Well i don't think it proves any thing


He did his job the dogs did the job they were trained to do.


I would think, M G credibility and the dogs, would have been zero

If maddie had been found alive.

If a body was found - things would have been different, it would   have been used as evidence.

I didn't say anything had been 'proved'. I said the alerts are evidence, which has consistently been denied.

[Mr Gray]

I didn't say anything had been 'proved'. I said the alerts are evidence, which has consistently been denied.

They have no evidential reliability...they are not reliable as evidence..

[Lace]

A question about the Cuddle Cat alert by Eddie.    If Grime didn't know that Cuddle Cat had been Madeleine's toy which was on her bed the night she disappeared,   would he have hidden it in the kitchen cupboard and then produced it when Eddie barked?

Cuddle Cat wasn't taken as evidence just given back to the McCann's.

[kizzy]

If Madeleine had been found alive, would the video inspections have been leaked and uploaded?

Well that would have to depend on when maddie was found.

Maddie could have been found after they had been uploaded

So the answer is would have to be -  yes.

[Mr Gray]

I didn't say anything had been 'proved'. I said the alerts are evidence, which has consistently been denied.

But not evidence allowed in court... So basically useless

[kizzy]

I didn't say anything had been 'proved'. I said the alerts are evidence, which has consistently been denied.

Sorry G-Unit it was a mistake quoting your post it should have been davels - i will remove it from my post.

[G-Unit]

Sorry G-Unit it was a mistake quoting your post it should have been davels - i will remove it from my post.

No problem. 

[Mr Gray]

No, it's my opinion that you'll cling to and repeat your convictions that 'the alerts mean nothing' andt 'the alerts weren't 'scientifically confirmed' despite the fact that the alerts do mean something and scientific confirmation has no bearing on that.

It's Grimes opinion that these alerts have no evidential value.. They are therefore worthless as evidence

[G-Unit]

But not evidence allowed in court... So basically useless

The trainer/handler's evidence is allowed in court, as are the dog's operational and training records. All evidence which could be used to demonstrate the likelihood of the reliability of the alerts.

[kizzy]

It's Grimes opinion that these alerts have no evidential value.. They are therefore worthless as evidence

Think you should stop posting  things as fact - when they are not.