Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence

[Mr Gray]

Some people seem unable to understand that there are different kinds of evidence.

Then enlighten us... Tell us what type of evidence the alerts are... Seeing as they have  no reliability or value as evidence and no inference can be drawn from them..

[slartibartfast]

Then enlighten us... Tell us what type of evidence the alerts are... Seeing as they have  no reliability or value as evidence and no inference can be drawn from them..

If that were the case, why does it bother you so much.

[Mr Gray]

If that were the case, why does it bother you so much.

Its a discussion forum where we discuss things... It doesn't bother me and that's, a silly assumption  to make..
So tell me...what type of evidence do you think it is... Give us another example of evidence that isevidence... But not in the legal sense... You are making no sense and seem just to be making excuses

[kizzy]

Then enlighten us... Tell us what type of evidence the alerts are... Seeing as they have  no reliability or value as evidence and no inference can be drawn from them..

Has any one ever said -  that the dog alerts, have been ruled out completely.

[Mr Gray]

So it seems that the alerts, are, a special  type of evidence... Perhaps, those, making this, strange claim could tell us more about this, special type of evidence

[Mr Gray]

Has any one ever said -  that the dog alerts, have been ruled out completely.

Yes, grime said they are ruled out as evidence... Did you not know, that

[faithlilly]

A while back, Innominate pointed out that the r/h bed in the parents' bedroom covered an area of flooring which, during Eddie's exercise,  had been exposed on the night of 3/5. The wardrobe was also not dismantled to check for traces of blood which may have been present on the unexposed parts of the fixture. The examination for any source of scent prompting the alert was therefore incomplete.

How do you think Keela finds blood ? Do you think it has to be visible?

[Mr Gray]

Some people seem unable to understand that there are different kinds of evidence.

You have made a, claim you should substantiate it..
The alerts have no evidential value so what type of evidence are they.... More excuses

[Mr Gray]

Always remembering that those experts are policemen and talking about acceptable legal evidence and not evidence in general.

What do you mean by evidence in general... Explain..
 ...why is that not fair comment

[Robittybob1]

You have made a, claim you should substantiate it..
The alerts have no evidential value so what type of evidence are they.... More excuses

Evidential value and evidence are different things.

[Mr Gray]

Evidential value and evidence are different things.

Explain then... Substantiate your claim

[faithlilly]

So it seems that the alerts, are, a special  type of evidence... Perhaps, those, making this, strange claim could tell us more about this, special type of evidence

DNA evidence is similar. By itself DNA evidence may prove nothing but put together with other evidence may provide the police with a strong case.

[Robittybob1]

Explain then... Substantiate your claim

what that they are different.

evidence
noun
1.
the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.
"the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination"
synonyms:   proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, authentication, attestation, documentation; More
verb
1.
be or show evidence of.


https://thelawdictionary.org/evidential-value/
"What is EVIDENTIAL VALUE?
Value of records given as or in support of evidence, based on the certainty of the records origins. The value here is not in the record content. This certainty is essential for authentic and adequate evidence of an entity's actions, functioning, policies, and/or structure."

Different definitions or description so they are different concepts.

[kizzy]

Yes, grime said they are ruled out as evidence... Did you not know, that

Would that be the case, if they found corroborating evidence.

[Mr Gray]

DNA evidence is similar. By itself DNA evidence may prove nothing but put together with other evidence may provide the police with a strong case.

DNA never proves nothing... It proves the presence if a persons DNA.... It doesn't explain how it got
The akert dies not prove the presence if cadaver contaminant