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Offline G-Unit

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #300 on: March 06, 2018, 09:23:05 PM »
Quote from: Davel on March 06, 2018, 08:12:41 PM
You are, assuming another expert witness could be found.... That he, would disagree... And the fact that there us, no real scientific  evidence to support the unconfirmed  alerts... That's the important point

The lack of 'real scientific evidence' isn't the important point. What would it have proved? It couldn't tell the investigators what happened to Madeleine.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #301 on: March 06, 2018, 09:25:01 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 06, 2018, 09:23:05 PM
The lack of 'real scientific evidence' isn't the important point. What would it have proved? It couldn't tell the investigators what happened to Madeleine.
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Scientific testing would give us an idea how accurate the alerts, are... We simply do not know
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #302 on: March 06, 2018, 09:27:19 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on March 06, 2018, 08:58:15 PM
It was a trick statement and you fell for it IMO.  Using "statistics it more probable that Madeleine was harmed by her parents than a stranger."  But the evidence does not support this in this case.  The stats are the summation/analysis of thousands of cases.

Using statistics it is not more probable that maddie was harmed by her parents than a, stranger
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #303 on: March 06, 2018, 09:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Davel on March 06, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
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Scientific testing would give us an idea how accurate the alerts, are... We simply do not know

Scientists have no test which can confirm or deny the accuracy Eddie's alerts.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #304 on: March 06, 2018, 09:35:16 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 06, 2018, 09:32:20 PM
Scientists have no test which can confirm or deny the accuracy Eddie's alerts.
No but it would be very simple to design double blind studies ti test and calibrate  the dogs in training
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #305 on: March 06, 2018, 09:46:17 PM »
Quote from: Davel on March 06, 2018, 09:35:16 PM
No but it would be very simple to design double blind studies ti test and calibrate  the dogs in training

Police dogs are licensed only if they pass tests. I assume the police are happy with the testing they carry out. Therefore I assume they would be prepared to testify as to the skill and reliability of one of their dogs.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #306 on: March 07, 2018, 12:47:33 AM »
Quote from: sadie on March 07, 2018, 12:17:01 AM
How frightfully unobservant of you.

I think Alice is spot on.
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Offline sadie

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #307 on: March 07, 2018, 01:00:57 AM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on March 07, 2018, 12:47:33 AM
I think Alice is spot on.
So, are you unobservant too?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #308 on: March 07, 2018, 01:16:59 AM »
Quote from: sadie on March 07, 2018, 01:00:57 AM
So, are you unobservant too?

Not as unobservant as you it would appear.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #309 on: March 07, 2018, 01:47:56 AM »
Cut it out - I will be deleting personal abuse.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #310 on: March 07, 2018, 07:12:05 AM »
Quote from: Davel on March 06, 2018, 09:27:19 PM
Using statistics it is not more probable that maddie was harmed by her parents than a, stranger

Please do show us...
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #311 on: March 07, 2018, 08:05:05 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on March 06, 2018, 09:46:17 PM
Police dogs are licensed only if they pass tests. I assume the police are happy with the testing they carry out. TheRrefore I assume they would be prepared to testify as to the skill and reliability of one of their dogs.

They are happy with the tests with the caveat that the alerts themselves have no evidential value...grime has already given his opinion as to the reliability of the alerts... As did Harrison.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #312 on: March 07, 2018, 08:12:02 AM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on March 07, 2018, 07:12:05 AM
Please do show us...

Im disagreeing with faith post that statistics point to the mccanns ...if faith would like to start a new thread we can discuss it and i can prove her wrong
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #313 on: March 07, 2018, 08:22:11 AM »
Quote from: Davel on March 06, 2018, 09:19:58 PM
Best get your facts right.. I didn't fall for it because it isn't true....
As you have confirmed... I trust you understand  why it isn't true
We are talking statistics not the actual cause of this case in particular. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Do the sceptics simply misunderstand the evidence
« Reply #314 on: March 07, 2018, 08:23:34 AM »
Quote from: Davel on March 06, 2018, 09:27:19 PM
Using statistics it is not more probable that maddie was harmed by her parents than a, stranger
As you were asked - you do it then show us the statistics!
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