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Offline G-Unit

The role of the media.
« on: March 09, 2018, 07:58:40 AM »
The media has played a significant part in this case. It was used to announce Madeleine's disappearance, to garner sympathy for the parents, to announce new initiatives in their campaign, and to damage the reputation of the PJ. This included accusing them of ineptitude, of leaking information and of ignoring leads.

I found this early 'leak' interesting, for example, because in my opinion that wasn't a Portuguese 'police source' speaking. Why? Because of the mention of how the McCanns felt about Jane's sighting and the criticism of the PJ officers who 'filed away' the description;

Timesonline
 David Brown in Praia da Luz
May 27, 2007

A police source said that the friend who believes she saw Madeleine being carried away was in the group of three British couples and a single woman who had travelled with the McCanns to Portugal........

"She feels guilty that she was the last person to see Madeleine and didn't do anything, but there is no sense of hostility (from the McCanns)," said the police source. "They don't blame the woman, they feel sorry for her. But she feels guilty that she was the last person to see Madeleine."..........

"In the view of the parents this sighting was Madeleine was being taken," said the police source. "They have has put a timeline together which they have presented to police and believe this was Madeline. That is why they have never believed she had wandered off."..............

The police source admitted: "The officers who were first given the description just did not seem interested and they just seemed to have filed it away."
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id30.htm
 


 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 08:34:56 AM »
The media has played a significant part in this case. It was used to announce Madeleine's disappearance, to garner sympathy for the parents, to announce new initiatives in their campaign, and to damage the reputation of the PJ. This included accusing them of ineptitude, of leaking information and of ignoring leads.

I found this early 'leak' interesting, for example, because in my opinion that wasn't a Portuguese 'police source' speaking. Why? Because of the mention of how the McCanns felt about Jane's sighting and the criticism of the PJ officers who 'filed away' the description;

Timesonline
 David Brown in Praia da Luz
May 27, 2007

A police source said that the friend who believes she saw Madeleine being carried away was in the group of three British couples and a single woman who had travelled with the McCanns to Portugal........

"She feels guilty that she was the last person to see Madeleine and didn't do anything, but there is no sense of hostility (from the McCanns)," said the police source. "They don't blame the woman, they feel sorry for her. But she feels guilty that she was the last person to see Madeleine."..........

"In the view of the parents this sighting was Madeleine was being taken," said the police source. "They have has put a timeline together which they have presented to police and believe this was Madeline. That is why they have never believed she had wandered off."..............

The police source admitted: "The officers who were first given the description just did not seem interested and they just seemed to have filed it away."
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id30.htm
The way the words are put together sound like an English speaking PJ to me.  It is definitely not from the English side.

Take any sentence, it doesn't flow like an English speaker would have said it e.g "In the view of the parents this sighting was Madeleine was being taken"  That is so Portuguese it isn't funny.

IMO not all the PJ would have agreed with GA. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 09:30:51 AM »
The way the words are put together sound like an English speaking PJ to me.  It is definitely not from the English side.

Take any sentence, it doesn't flow like an English speaker would have said it e.g "In the view of the parents this sighting was Madeleine was being taken"  That is so Portuguese it isn't funny.

IMO not all the PJ would have agreed with GA.

Why would a Portuguese police officer know, care, or want to talk about how the McCanns felt about Jane Tanner?
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Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 09:51:45 AM »

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 10:11:50 AM »
Why would a Portuguese police officer know, care, or want to talk about how the McCanns felt about Jane Tanner?
A "police source" could be someone other than an officer. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2018, 11:04:50 AM »
A "police source" could be someone other than an officer.

If you look at the information the only thing anyone from the police might know for sure is that a timeline was prepared. I don't think they would know;

how the McCanns felt about Jane Tanner 
that the police didn't seem interested in Jane's sighting

That information is from someone who has been talking to the McCanns and hearing their opinions. If this came from a police source I would say a British police source.
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Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2018, 11:13:19 AM »
If you look at the information the only thing anyone from the police might know for sure is that a timeline was prepared. I don't think they would know;

how the McCanns felt about Jane Tanner 
that the police didn't seem interested in Jane's sighting

That information is from someone who has been talking to the McCanns and hearing their opinions. If this came from a police source I would say a British police source.

It does sound a reasonable conclusion.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 11:21:13 AM »
If you look at the information the only thing anyone from the police might know for sure is that a timeline was prepared. I don't think they would know;

how the McCanns felt about Jane Tanner 
that the police didn't seem interested in Jane's sighting

That information is from someone who has been talking to the McCanns and hearing their opinions. If this came from a police source I would say a British police source.
An English person would used a different set of words.  A person present in the JT interview would have heard all this.

She repeats similar thoughts during her rogatory interview "So I think I did feel sort of a bit obviously guilty at that stage even though I didn’t know whether it was anything, but obviously you think ‘Oh bloody hell, what if I’, not stopped it happened potentially”.

 

4078    “And what was Gerry’s reaction to what you said?”

Reply    “Well I don’t even know whether he took it in, I mean, he was just, he was, you know, obviously just standing there looking absolutely horrified, so”."

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2018, 01:16:33 PM »
The media has played a significant part in this case. It was used to announce Madeleine's disappearance, to garner sympathy for the parents, to announce new initiatives in their campaign, and to damage the reputation of the PJ. This included accusing them of ineptitude, of leaking information and of ignoring leads.

I found this early 'leak' interesting, for example, because in my opinion that wasn't a Portuguese 'police source' speaking. Why? Because of the mention of how the McCanns felt about Jane's sighting and the criticism of the PJ officers who 'filed away' the description;

Timesonline
 David Brown in Praia da Luz
May 27, 2007

A police source said that the friend who believes she saw Madeleine being carried away was in the group of three British couples and a single woman who had travelled with the McCanns to Portugal........

"She feels guilty that she was the last person to see Madeleine and didn't do anything, but there is no sense of hostility (from the McCanns)," said the police source. "They don't blame the woman, they feel sorry for her. But she feels guilty that she was the last person to see Madeleine."..........

"In the view of the parents this sighting was Madeleine was being taken," said the police source. "They have has put a timeline together which they have presented to police and believe this was Madeline. That is why they have never believed she had wandered off."..............

The police source admitted: "The officers who were first given the description just did not seem interested and they just seemed to have filed it away."
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id30.htm

That is what we used to call "bubbling your mates".
Or put another way " dissident police officer on case blames colleagues for failures" add your own A.A Milne "In which ..." bit.
The idea that some are not satisfied to have taken this hook line and sinker but have to go half way up the rod as well is amazing!

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Offline G-Unit

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2018, 01:47:25 PM »
An English person would used a different set of words.  A person present in the JT interview would have heard all this.

She repeats similar thoughts during her rogatory interview "So I think I did feel sort of a bit obviously guilty at that stage even though I didn’t know whether it was anything, but obviously you think ‘Oh bloody hell, what if I’, not stopped it happened potentially”.

 

4078    “And what was Gerry’s reaction to what you said?”

Reply    “Well I don’t even know whether he took it in, I mean, he was just, he was, you know, obviously just standing there looking absolutely horrified, so”."

You think a journalist would print those ramblings verbatim, do you?   @)(++(*
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The role of the media.
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 05:24:31 PM »
That is what we used to call "bubbling your mates".
Or put another way " dissident police officer on case blames colleagues for failures" add your own A.A Milne "In which ..." bit.
The idea that some are not satisfied to have taken this hook line and sinker but have to go half way up the rod as well is amazing!

Measure twice cut once.
So was the dissident police officer male or female, young or old , English or Portuguese?
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