What does "... however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted" mean?

[Robittybob1]

"The officer added that however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted" means?

What does it mean, please offer your interpretation?

Copying Brietta's post http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9213.msg450897#msg450897
"Mr Rowley said there was no ‘definitive evidence’ as to whether Madeleine is alive or dead.

He added: ‘That’s why we describe it as a missing person inquiry. We understand why, after this many years, people will be pessimistic, but it’s important we keep an open mind.’ The officer added that however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/25/madeleine-mccann-police-following-significant-leads-as-10th-anniversary-approaches-6595974/?ito=cbshare "

If you don't believe in abduction doesn't matter I just want to know what Mark Rowley meant.

[jassi]

I think what he means is that Madeleine did not leave of her volition. For whatever reason, he discards woke & Wander.
Badly expressed, IMO

[faithlilly]

I think what he means is that Madeleine did not leave of her volition. For whatever reason, he discards woke & Wander.
Badly expressed, IMO

Deliberately ambiguous perhaps ?

[Robittybob1]

I think what he means is that Madeleine did not leave of her volition. For whatever reason, he discards woke & Wander.
Badly expressed, IMO

OK interesting but different to what I think, but I won't explain my position till others have had a go.

[barrier]

OK interesting but different to what I think, but I won't explain my position till others have had a go.

Simulated abduction,meaning she never left of her own fruition.

Rowley:The officer added that however Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted.

[jassi]

OK interesting but different to what I think, but I won't explain my position till others have had a go.

Now why should that surprise me ?

[Alice Purjorick]

http://news.met.police.uk/documents/transcript-of-interview-with-ac-mark-rowley-66743

[Robittybob1]

http://news.met.police.uk/documents/transcript-of-interview-with-ac-mark-rowley-66743

the actual paragraph in question:

"MR: Two points to that, firstly the involvement of the parents, that was dealt with at the time by the
original investigation by the Portuguese. We had a look at all the material and we are happy that was
all dealt with and there is no reason whatsoever to reopen that or start rumours that was a line of
investigation. The McCanns are parents of a missing girl, we are trying to get to the bottom of. In
terms of Andy using the word abduction, she was not old enough to set off and start her own life.
However she left that apartment, she has been abducted. It is not a 20-year-old who has gone
missing and who has made a decision to start a new life, this is a young girl who is missing and at the
heart of this has been an abduction."

[pathfinder73]

Whoever removed Madeleine from the apartment is the abductor - no exceptions. "she was not old enough to set off and start her own life."

[Vertigo Swirl]

"At the heart of this has been an abduction". 

Some may choose to read this as meaning "at the heart of this the parents are involved" but I take it at face value.

[jassi]

Has anyone put that interpretation forward on this thread?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Has anyone put that interpretation forward on this thread?

I should hope not!

[Robittybob1]

"At the heart of this has been an abduction". 

Some may choose to read this as meaning "at the heart of this the parents are involved" but I take it at face value.

So if it is more than a little ambiguous what is your take on its face value.  The part where it says "she has been abducted"  is rather clear, but it was preceded by "However she left that apartment ..." 

To me that means whatever reason you think she left the apartment , ultimately she was abducted.
"Howevers"
wandered out and then abducted.
apartment burgled and then abducted.
killed by Kate and then abducted.
died by accident and then abducted.
targeted by kidnappers and then abducted.
wandered out, had an accident, picked by a stranger to help her and then abducted.
Could be other howevers?


Thought of another however:
wandered out, went to the beach, stung by a Portuguese Man o War, hurt, picked by a stranger to help her, died in his arms and then abducted. lol

[Miss Taken Identity]

So if it is more than a little ambiguous what is your take on its face value.  The part where it says "she has been abducted"  is rather clear, but it was preceded by "However she left that apartment ..." 

To me that means whatever reason you think she left the apartment , ultimately she was abducted.
"Howevers"
wandered out and then abducted.
apartment burgled and then abducted.
killed by Kate and then abducted.
died by accident and then abducted.
targeted by kidnappers and then abducted.
wandered out, had an accident, picked by a stranger to help her and then abducted.
Could be other howevers?


Thought of another however:
wandered out, went to the beach, stung by a Portuguese Man o War, hurt, picked by a stranger to help her, died in his arms and then abducted. lol

She was removed from her given address by person/s unknown to the police. However, she could have been abducted /removed by person/s known to MBM.  Dead or alive  they do not know. It is fair to say MBM was/is a UK citizen who was taken from the UK and has never been identified by anyone or come home to her country of birth.

[Alice Purjorick]

"At the heart of this has been an abduction". 

Some may choose to read this as meaning "at the heart of this the parents are involved" but I take it at face value.

I have six honest serving men they taught me all I knew their names are what and where and when and how and why and who.
I down five to go.
Dare I suggest the most important five.