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Offline Robittybob1

What value was it to interview all these staff members? 

MILLENNIUM RESTAURANT 

ALEXANDRA N. DE SOUSA WAITRESS 08 MAY 07
ALICE M.V.SILVESTRE RESTAURANT 06-MAY 07
ANA M.D.C.SILVA HOTEL WORKER 06 MAY 07
CATIA SOFIA DA COSTA- WAITRESS 08 MAY 07
CECILIA CARMO PUBLIC RELATIONS 06 MAY 07
DAVID J. A. V. D. SANTOS-RESTAURANT 08 MAY 07
ECATERINA DOBRIOGLO- RESTAURANT 08 MAY 07
EDUARDO J.O.MARTINS BARMAN 06 MAY 07
GUSTAVO CESAR C.CAMPOS WAITER 08 MAY 07
JOHN SHOLTO YOUNG WAITER 08 MAY 07
JORGE MIGUEL T. CINTRA WAITER 08 MAY 07
LOUISA MARIA C.TODOROV-WAITRESS 08 MAY 07
LUIS MIGUEL DE S. BARROS-BARMAN 05 MAY 07
NATALIA PASA MILLENIUM COOK 06 MAY 07
NELSON LUIS DA SILVA RODRIGUEZ 08 MAY 07
MARIA FERNANDES TABLE WORKER 07 MAY 07
MARIA JOSE DOS S.ROSA BAR CHIEF 06 MAY 07
PEDRO A.G.RIBEIRO BARMAN 06 MAY 07
PEDRO M.G.A.D.S.BANDARRA BARMAN 08 MAY 07
SOFIA BENTO BARBOSO COOK 08 AUG 08
SERGIO JANINI COOK 07 MAY 07
TIFFANY CAROL HORNER WAITRESS 08 MAY 07
VALTER MANUEL DE F.MENDES-BARMAN 05 MAY 07
VIRGINIA MONTEIRO KITCHEN 07 MAY 08
VERA VALERIO KITCHEN WORKER 07 MAY 07
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2018, 02:45:07 AM »
Mentions of "McCann" in the Millennium statements:

"On the following day she found out from the news that the girl was the daughter of the McCann couple who had dined at the restaurant where she works." ALEXANDER NICOLE DE SOUSA


"The restaurant is used by guests staying at the resort, mainly for breakfast and dinner.

When asked, she says she remembers the McCann family as they often used the restaurant where she worked although she adds that she never had a conversation with them.

When asked about the relationship between the McCann couple and their children she says that she does not know and did not pay attention.

She says that at no moment did she see anything suspicious.

She knows about the facts being investigated through her boyfriend Nelson Rodrigues who works as a barman at the OC and who phoned her at about 23.00/23.30 on 3rd May telling her that he would be home late as a girl was missing and he was helping to look for her. Her boyfriend arrived home at 04.00 the following day.

She says that after this she heard about the case on the news."    Alice Maria Velhuco Ciriaco Guerreiro Silvestre


"She says that breakfast was served between 08.00 and 10.00 and that the McCanns would arrive between 08.00 and 09.00.

She says that the McCanns appeared to be a normal family and that the relation between the members of the family was very good. Madeleine appeared to be very attached to her father and was always clinging on to him. Given her public relations function she was always very nice to the guests and would get involved with the children, saying that Madeleine was very shy and did not respond to her. She says that the only contact she had with guests was at the entrance to the Millenium restaurant, she did not have a view of the tables or the Buffet area.

She heard about the disappearance on Friday morning 4th May from a colleague called Alice."  Cecilia Paula Dias Firmino do Carmo


"The establishment is used by guests staying at the OC resort particularly at breakfast and dinner times.

When questioned he says he remembers the family of Madeleine McCann, who used the restaurant where he works once on Saturday 28th April, but he adds that he did not have any conversation with them.

When questioned about the relationship between the parents and the children, he says that he did not really notice, but that he was given to believe that there was nothing strange about it.

He says that at no moment did he notice anyone with strange behaviour as regards the children or anything that appeared suspicious to him."  David Jose Araujo Veloso dos Santos


When questioned she says that she does not remember the family of Madeleine McCann although they were regular users of the restaurant where she worked, because her functions did not imply direct contact with the guests.

She never noticed the presence of anyone with strange behaviour towards children or see anything suspicious." Ecaterina Dobrioglo

"He says that he has nothing to add, he saw nothing strange during the day or on the previous days.

With regard to the McCann family he has nothing to add as he did not have close contact with them.

He say that without being absolutely sure he thinks he saw the couple with their three children inside the restaurant on Monday or Tuesday night, he supposes they were there to eat.

When questioned he says that he is not sure whether they were accompanied by other individuals.

He says that as was the case on other nights, that night was calm and he did not notice anything strange or anyone approaching the couple or their children or taking photographs.
Reads, ratifies, signs."   Gustavo Cesar Cabral Campos

"After seeing their [the McCann's] picture, he immediately remembered that he had seen them having breakfast in the restaurant where he works, but that he does not remember any situation in particular involving this family, nor does he remember hearing or noticing any strange situation involving their presence."  John Sholto Young

". That the deponent was working, her colleagues went looking for the child, that night, and the stated that they returned home at 01 in the morning;
. In that which concerns the specific facts of the investigation, she states that she has nothing relevant to offer;
. States that she exercises her functions in that restaurant, which is situated in an area away from the apartment where the McCann family was staying;"  MARIA DE FATIMA DE SOUSA FERNANDES


"He heard about the disappearance when he arrived for work on Friday morning.

He says that he has no knowledge of any strange events before the disappearance. With regard to the McCann family, he has nothing to say as he had no close contact with them.

He says that they would have breakfast in the morning at the restaurant. He cannot guarantee it, but he thinks they were regular guests at the time in the morning. He cannot say anything about the time after 15.00 when he was off duty."  Pedro Alexandre Gonzaga Ribeiro
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2018, 02:59:52 AM »
I'll have to check what the McCanns say about going to the Millennium but on the initial cut and pastes it appears a lot of the staff were getting  confused between the Tapas 7 and the Tapas 9 and the McCann family on their own.
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2018, 04:40:31 AM »
"----- The reception committee over, the nine adults and eight children went on foot to the MILLENIUM restaurant. They went back to the secondary reception, turned left and, at the end of the road, turned right up to the main street that led to the restaurant. Because it was a long way, at some time the deponent and his wife picked up and carried the twins in their arms, but not MADELEINE who was always on foot.
----- They arrived at the destination between 18h50 and 19h00 having set themselves up at a large table where they all ate dinner, including the children who were seated between the adults, never leaving the place except for one of the twins who went to the bathroom with the deponent. About an hour later they finished dinner returning, again on foot by the same route, though going wrong in one of the streets where they should have turned left, ending up only turning at the next street. He adds that, as they were all very tired they went directly to the apartment arriving at 20h10/20h15, the route back having been slightly faster given that the twins were carried all the way."

"----- The following day (Sunday) the children woke up at 08h00, he and his wife having woken up at 07h30. They dressed and about 08h40 left the apartment going to the MILLENIUM restaurant, once more on foot and by the same route as the previous night, but without the mistake referred to previously, arriving there at 08h45/09h00. The group did not all arrive at the same time, rather in a phased manner, because they were not all seated at the same table.
----- He thinks that MO and wife RMO did not take breakfast due to the former having spent a bad night with vomiting and diarrhoea. At breakfast the children sat at the same table among the adults, it finished at 09h25.
----- The deponent, his wife and three children went to the OCEAN CLUB by the same route where they arrived at 09h40, the deponent having entered the apartment by the main door, which was locked,"

"This time was marked at the restaurant as the beginning of dinner, except Saturday, arrival day, when they had dinner at the Millenium."

"They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 AM. Food bought by her and Gerry at Baptista supermarket. Previously they'd had breakfast at the  millennium, but as it was so far they'd decided to have breakfast at the apartment."

"As regards routines, he says that on Sunday they had breakfast between 07.30 and 08.30 at the OC Bar at a few metres distance from the apartment. During the following days, because of the fact that the bar was quite far away, they began to buy food at a supermarket situated in the same street as the apartment, he cannot remember the name of the supermarket and they would have breakfast in the apartment. "

"----- Again she went on foot, leaving the secondary reception she turned right, went down the street passing the supermarket, turning left passing the main reception. After putting the children in their creches they went to the supermarket where they bought[things] for lunch and breakfast."

----- In the following days they always took breakfast at home, shopping the day before, generally maintaining the daily routine described above.


So it seems except for 1 day breakfast was taken in the apartment.  I'll see if the Tapas 7 confirm this.









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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 07:53:36 AM »
DAVID PAYNE'S STATEMENT

"Concerning the remaining members of the group, normally we met up with them in the morning and went for breakfast, together, at the, "Millennium," restaurant, after which they left their children at their respective mini-clubs and the adults went to do sports inside the tourist complex or they went to the beach.
The couple Gerry and Kate had breakfast in the apartment. It was usual to have dinner together every night. With the exception of Saturday, when they all dined at the, "Millennium," restaurant, every evening the group was to be found at the, "Tapas," restaurant"

Fiona Payne:
"Reply
 'Something to mention, which I don't think I have. Kate and Gerry certainly, that must have been the Sunday morning, they did come for breakfast at Millennium on the first day, we were there and we all pretty much met on that Sunday morning for breakfast and I know they didn't do that again because they had a hideous time with the twins wanting to walk everywhere at that point and, you know, one would be lurking at the back and the other one walking ahead'.
 
 
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 'Umm'.
 
 
 Reply
 'And they just found it too, too difficult. So that was the only time they, we saw them at breakfast, that was the first day'."


 Reply
 'They didn't do breakfast at the Millennium, so as I say really we, we wouldn't sort of on the whole catch up with Kate and Gerry, other than in, if we happen to sort of cross paths'.


Jane Tanner:
"4078    “Am I right in thinking you went to the Millennium?”
Reply    “We went to the Millennium for breakfast yeah. I think that first morning on the Sunday everybody, the whole group went that first, well I’m not sure if Dave and Fi did but I know Kate and Gerry went that first morning to the Millennium Restaurant and I think they found it quite a, a trail to get because they’d got three kids, the ones that were two, they were carrying the twins and dragging Madeleine so I think then after that they decided they’d have breakfast in their room after their first day because it was a bit of a, not an ordeal, but it was a bit of a trek to get back.”
4078    “Ah it is, the children to get out of bed in the morning.”"




"In the morning, the group woke between 6.30 and 8am and that they all went on foot to the, "Millennium," around 10 minutes from the complex. That only Madeleine's parents, Madeleine and the twins had breakfast in their apartment due to the fact that they have three very small children. "



MATT OLDFIELD:
"Gerry and Kate came the first, I think came the first day, or maybe the evening, but then started making their breakfast all the time, because they had three kids to get there and the Millennium was a good ten minute walk along roads with sort of, where you had to actually cross into the road to get round because of obstructions on the pavement and there was quite a lot of sort of fast, although it wasn't sort of like a busy road, but the traffic that did come occasionally came through quite fast, so it was quite a long, erm, a long walk to get there, so they decided that it wasn't worth the hassle and they would just eat and have breakfast in their apartment, so they certainly didn't eat there after that first day, if they made it the first day, I think the group did eat the first day."



"In that sense he relates that all members of the group would eat meals in OC restaurants as follows: breakfast would be at the Millenium, situated slightly away from the residential block where they were lodged (close to the main street, the Lagos road, about 10 minutes on foot), while dinner would be at the Tapas restaurant, situated next to the swimming pools of their residential block.
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The sole exception to this rule would be by the McCanns who would eat breakfast in their apartment, he considering that that was done due to the fact that they had three small children and the distance between [their flat] and the Millenium. Nevertheless he wished to point out that, on the night of 28 May the group had dined at Millenium as the Tapas was closed."


Matt:
"- he woke up about 06h30/07h00 going to take breakfast at Millennium at 08h00 with his wife and daughter. He does not recall who [else] was with them. He knows that GM, KM and their children did not breakfast there because they always did that in their apartment.
Regarding the other group members he cannot remember who was in the Millennium that morning. He is sure that he was not accompanied by the whole group given that they were not always accompanied by the same people during this meal - thinking that only DP or ROB would have been there with their respective children.
Adding that as each day passed there were fewer group members who went there for breakfast, opting to have it in their apartments, due to the distance of the restaurant from their residences.[/color]"


Russell:
"On 3rd May, the day of Madeleines disappearance they all (except for the McCanns who stayed in their apartment) has breakfast at the Millenium at 08.00."

Rachael:
"After breakfast, taken between 8 and 9 am in the Millennium restaurant, she takes her daughter to the Kids Club, about 10 minutes walk from the apartment. The other couples do exactly the same thing, with the exception of Gerry and Kate McCann who have breakfast in their apartment"











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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 08:03:03 AM »
I might have one of those mixed up but looking for the word "Breakfast" I came across several  statements that expressed an element of danger in the walk to the Millennium Restaurant.  That is particularly interesting if we were looking for a place where a child could get injured.
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2018, 10:28:32 AM »
I was going to look at the arrangements for lunch, but they aren't going to be related to the Millennium.

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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2018, 10:33:24 AM »
The PJ decided to interview all the people working at the Ocean Club. That allowed them to find out who worked when, what they might have heard or seen, and where they all were on the evening of 3rd May.

I think it's more interesting to look at those who weren't interviewed in the early days. John and Donna Hill and Emma Knight in particular.  Why were they left out?
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2018, 10:53:08 AM »
The PJ decided to interview all the people working at the Ocean Club. That allowed them to find out who worked when, what they might have heard or seen, and where they all were on the evening of 3rd May.

I think it's more interesting to look at those who weren't interviewed in the early days. John and Donna Hill and Emma Knight in particular.  Why were they left out?
There are so few statements mentioning them you can't do research on them.  Where as here we have 25 statements some mention the McCanns and  most of those are uncertain who the McCanns were.
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2018, 11:15:59 AM »
There are so few statements mentioning them you can't do research on them.  Where as here we have 25 statements some mention the McCanns and  most of those are uncertain who the McCanns were.

A lot of the office staff, cleaners, maintenance men and gardeners didn't know who the McCanns were either.
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2018, 11:24:00 AM »
A lot of the office staff, cleaners, maintenance men and gardeners didn't know who the McCanns were either.

Why should they? The McCanns only because celebrities after the event.
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2018, 11:36:11 AM »
A lot of the office staff, cleaners, maintenance men and gardeners didn't know who the McCanns were either.
What I meant was that those that mentioned the McCanns were not describing the McCanns but the other in the Tapas 7 group.
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2018, 01:10:44 PM »
What I meant was that those that mentioned the McCanns were not describing the McCanns but the other in the Tapas 7 group.

Not all the Tapas staff knew who was who either. One of them thought he saw the missing child's father searching the complex, but I don't think it was.

It made sense to interview all staff, no matter where they worked in my opinion.
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2018, 05:58:02 PM »
Not all the Tapas staff knew who was who either. One of them thought he saw the missing child's father searching the complex, but I don't think it was.

It made sense to interview all staff, no matter where they worked in my opinion.
I think I have discovered a big hole in the investigation - the supermarket.  Did any of the staff at the supermarket get interviewed?
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Re: Why did the PJ interview 25 staff from the Millenium restaurant?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2018, 06:27:02 PM »
I think I have discovered a big hole in the investigation - the supermarket.  Did any of the staff at the supermarket get interviewed?

Why would they be?
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