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Offline barrier

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2018, 01:20:05 PM »
Thread title Baptista supermarket.


Who is suggesting a quantity of bleach was purchased? 


However, I do find it difficult to see The McCanns walking out with large quantities of Bleach, to go unnoticed, even if they did pay with cash.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2018, 01:21:23 PM »

So no one has suggested that the McCanns actually did this?  OK.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2018, 01:22:37 PM »
So no one has suggested that the McCanns actually did this?  OK.

Ask Eleanor she broached the subject.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2018, 01:27:39 PM »
No,I think you are misunderstanding, if a supposed quantity of bleach was  to have been purchased  would there not be a paper trail,either receipts or stock control.

But there wasn't.  So where do we go from there?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2018, 01:29:38 PM »
Who is suggesting a quantity of bleach was purchased?

God knows.  But it has been suggested.  Never to be proven, of course.

Offline barrier

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2018, 01:32:55 PM »
But there wasn't.  So where do we go from there?

If I was a bit more hardy,outside to build a snow man.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2018, 01:44:17 PM »
If I was a bit more hardy,outside to build a snow man.

And i can't be bothered to Delete that either.

Beware of what you wish for.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2018, 04:14:06 PM »
Thank you, Alice for that.  That is a really good one.  Pronounced Batista.  But see how easy it is.  Even this Thread is incorrectly titled.

However, I do find it difficult to see The McCanns walking out with large quantities of Bleach, to go unnoticed, even if they did pay with cash.

How not to draw attention to yourself in one easy lesson? !

I hadn't reached as far as bleach; I was just thinking it if they paid in readies it would be difficult to prove they bought so much as a bag of Haribo Ositos for the kids.

Going off on one for a bit as is my wont:
1) One presumes the Drs McCann are not idiots and know a bit about chemistry.
2) We know with reasonable certainty they could not understand the Portuguese language in either its written or spoken form.
3) Taking 1 as fact they would know enough that a chlorine based bleach would not do the job thus they would need an oxidant.

So far so good.
How to buy an oxidising bleach?
IMO no one can be that much of an anorak about bleach they would know from trade names which was which.
Neither do I see the good doctors standing blocking up an aisle with an interpreter who is reading off bleach bottle labels to them. Or better yet the good doctors taking the top off a few bottles for a sneaky "nose test" but that would be unreliable and I am sure someone will drop by shortly to tell us why.

http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/detecting-evidence-after-bleaching.html

"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Eleanor

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2018, 04:28:35 PM »
How not to draw attention to yourself in one easy lesson? !

I hadn't reached as far as bleach; I was just thinking it if they paid in readies it would be difficult to prove they bought so much as a bag of Haribo Ositos for the kids.

Going off on one for a bit as is my wont:
1) One presumes the Drs McCann are not idiots and know a bit about chemistry.
2) We know with reasonable certainty they could not understand the Portuguese language in either its written or spoken form.
3) Taking 1 as fact they would know enough that a chlorine based bleach would not do the job thus they would need an oxidant.

So far so good.
How to buy an oxidising bleach?
IMO no one can be that much of an anorak about bleach they would know from trade names which was which.
Neither do I see the good doctors standing blocking up an aisle with an interpreter who is reading off bleach bottle labels to them. Or better yet the good doctors taking the top off a few bottles for a sneaky "nose test" but that would be unreliable and I am sure someone will drop by shortly to tell us why.

http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/detecting-evidence-after-bleaching.html

No doubt Admin will not see this as a disruption.  But don't try me too far.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2018, 04:51:00 PM »
No doubt Admin will not see this as a disruption.  But don't try me too far.

Gosh! fancy my receiving a bollocking for writing something supportive of the McCanns ?.
Damned if you do damned if you don't it would seem.
Never have I been so gobsmackedly dumbfounded !
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2018, 04:59:29 PM »
Gosh! fancy my receiving a bollocking for writing something supportive of the McCanns ?.
Damned if you do damned if you don't it would seem.
Never have I been so gobsmackedly dumbfounded !
Never mind Alice, for what it's worth I enjoyed your post.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2018, 06:26:34 PM »
No,I think you are misunderstanding, if a supposed quantity of bleach was  to have been purchased  would there not be a paper trail,either receipts or stock control.
We don't know what was being purchased but if the supermarket had CCTV on the outside of the building they could have had CCTV over the checkouts as well.
On the 4th Kate told the PJ they were purchasing from the Baptista Supermarket.  We don't know what an exploration along that line of inquiry would have revealed.
There is no end of crimes solved assisted by the analysis of recent purchases.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #87 on: March 18, 2018, 06:45:59 PM »
The only oxidizing bleach available would be in the, hair dye section in very small bottles

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #88 on: March 18, 2018, 07:33:57 PM »
It might be handy to know what coverage rate is necessary just to have a sense check like.
Then we could rule in or out based on what looks reasonable.
1 litre or 1 cubic metre of hydrogen peroxide ?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline sadie

Re: Were the staff at the Batista Supermarket interviewed?
« Reply #89 on: March 18, 2018, 11:15:49 PM »
You would have to include all the failed attempts and near misses for known people as well then and will that balance out the figures?  I think  failed attempts and near misses will be too hard to recognise and therefore not included in any study.

Little Carolina Santos' case was a failed attempted abduction and only about 18-25 miles  from PdL. and just over four months before Madeleine vanished.  Had the abduction succeeded would Madeleine have been abducted four months later?

A very pretty little blond girl, aged 3, Carolina was playing on the pavement outside her parents cafe/bar on Christmas day and a man came along and said he would take her to play with some other children.  Her parents suddenly noticed her missing and went outside to see her walking off in the distance, hand in hand with a man.   They yelled her and she came running back.  He vanished around a corner / bend

This was one of a series of 8 abductions / missing children in close locations, and at fairly regular intervals, in the Porto and the Algarve regions.


Had Caroilna vanished and not been 'rescued'  would Madeleine have vanished 4 months afterwards?