According to some, there is certainly circumstantial evidence of abduction.

[G-Unit]

If you put yourself in the McCanns shoes, and then make the massive leap (for you) that they had no hand in Madeleine's disappearance, and given that the window was left open and given that there was no sign of her for many hours post the alarm being raised, what other explanation would you have arrived at?

If you put yourself in the McCann's shoes, and then make the massive leap (for you) that they had a hand in Madeleine's disappearance, it can all be seen as an attempt to deny culpability.

We're back to whether they can be believed or not.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If you put yourself in the McCann's shoes, and then make the massive leap (for you) that they had a hand in Madeleine's disappearance, it can all be seen as an attempt to deny culpability.

We're back to whether they can be believed or not.

Yes, well you've neatly deflected with your response there haven't you?  You earlier asked what evidence the McCanns had that supported their theory that she'd been abducted.  I have pointed out some fairly tangible evidence, whether you choose to believe them or it (or not) is your issue, not theirs.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I very much doubt G-Unit would have left her infants indoors & gone out to eat in the first place.

No doubt she is a truly wonderful parent and would have rather died than do so, but my point still stands.

[sadie]

The poster photo had even shorter hair.  http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/missing-madeleine-mccann-poster.thumbnail.gif

No point in showing photos taken months before, IMO.   

The only recent ones that we have to compare hair lengths are the photos taken with the tennis balls and the photo sitting by the pool dangling her feet in the water alongside her daddy.  Dont have the time or energy to fined them at present.

[Carana]

They were taken back to be shown CCTV of a child holding a woman's hand in a service station near Luz and were able to eliminate her from the inquiry.
They were never shown the images from a Repsol petrol station near Albufeira captured on the same day.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2508744/Madeleine-McCann-police-didnt-reveal-sighting-of-Maddy.html

Why show one and not the other?

Good point. I don't have Kate's book to hand to check what she said the situation was. Perhaps someone here does.

[Robittybob1]

Good point. I don't have Kate's book to hand to check what she said the situation was. Perhaps someone here does.

Later.

[faithlilly]

Good point. I don't have Kate's book to hand to check what she said the situation was. Perhaps someone here does.

‘It was seven-thirty by the time one of the PJ officers drove us away from the police station. Angela Morado came with us. Ten or fifteen minutes into our journey, the police officer had a call from his station. He said something to Angela, who explained that he’d been ordered to return us to the police station straight away. He wasn’t allowed to tell us why. Already driving at quite a scary speed, he suddenly swung the car into a U-turn, floored the accelerator and drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão. I cannot overstate how terrifying this was. Had Madeleine been found? Please God. Was she alive? Was she dead? Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life. I was crying hysterically and praying for all I was worth.

Back at the police station we endured at least another ten minutes of torture in the waiting area before somebody showed us a photograph, clearly taken from CCTV, of a blonde child with a woman in a petrol-station shop. We weren’t told anything about this, just asked whether the little girl was Madeleine. She wasn’t. And that was that. Again we were sent on our way, utterly devastated.’

Do we know when the CCTV from the second piece of film was given to the PJ ? Was it on the same day ? Would it have been possible to show it to the McCanns at the same time ? Were they shown it later ?

[G-Unit]

Yes, well you've neatly deflected with your response there haven't you?  You earlier asked what evidence the McCanns had that supported their theory that she'd been abducted.  I have pointed out some fairly tangible evidence, whether you choose to believe them or it (or not) is your issue, not theirs.

So your opinion rests purely on your belief that they weren't involved. If you're mistaken your opinion is worthless. Beliefs aren't evidence.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So your opinion rests purely on your belief that they weren't involved. If you're mistaken your opinion is worthless. Beliefs aren't evidence.

No, it's not opinion we're debating here -you asked what evidence did the McCanns have to support  their belief that there daughter was abducted.  I've just pointed out what evidence they had that she was abducted.  The fact that you think they had a hand in her  disappearance is irrelevant to the question, your view of the McCanns has no bearing on the evidence of abduction they had, evidence which you yourself asked for, and evidence which supported their theory.

[Robittybob1]

Yes, well you've neatly deflected with your response there haven't you?  You earlier asked what evidence the McCanns had that supported their theory that she'd been abducted.  I have pointed out some fairly tangible evidence, whether you choose to believe them or it (or not) is your issue, not theirs.

Can you repeat the "I have pointed out some fairly tangible evidence"  part please?  "Fairly tangible evidence" is what I was looking for.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Can you repeat the "I have pointed out some fairly tangible evidence"  part please?  "Fairly tangible evidence" is what I was looking for.

This thread is only a few pages long and I've not made that many posts on it.  It won't take you long to find I'm sure.

[Robittybob1]

This thread is only a few pages long and I've not made that many posts on it.  It won't take you long to find I'm sure.

Keyword then please?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Keyword then please?

"Vertigo Swirl" - check out my posts, on the previous page, it won't take long.

[Carana]

‘It was seven-thirty by the time one of the PJ officers drove us away from the police station. Angela Morado came with us. Ten or fifteen minutes into our journey, the police officer had a call from his station. He said something to Angela, who explained that he’d been ordered to return us to the police station straight away. He wasn’t allowed to tell us why. Already driving at quite a scary speed, he suddenly swung the car into a U-turn, floored the accelerator and drove us at a life-threatening 120mph plus back towards Portimão. I cannot overstate how terrifying this was. Had Madeleine been found? Please God. Was she alive? Was she dead? Gerry and I clung on to each other for dear life. I was crying hysterically and praying for all I was worth.

Back at the police station we endured at least another ten minutes of torture in the waiting area before somebody showed us a photograph, clearly taken from CCTV, of a blonde child with a woman in a petrol-station shop. We weren’t told anything about this, just asked whether the little girl was Madeleine. She wasn’t. And that was that. Again we were sent on our way, utterly devastated.’

Do we know when the CCTV from the second piece of film was given to the PJ ? Was it on the same day ? Would it have been possible to show it to the McCanns at the same time ? Were they shown it later ?

Thanks, Faith.

It's not clear to me if there were two different sightings (in different places) or whether they were both images of the same place with one image showing a woman next to her and the other with a child alone.

[Robittybob1]

"Vertigo Swirl" - check out my posts, on the previous page, it won't take long.

Was it this post? http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9278.msg453469#msg453469

 "If you put yourself in the McCanns shoes, and then make the massive leap (for you) that they had no hand in Madeleine's disappearance, and given that the window was left open and given that there was no sign of her for many hours post the alarm being raised, what other explanation would you have arrived at?"

1.  the window was left open
2.  there was no sign of her for many hours post the alarm being raised.