Should SY set up a special unit to investigate ALL missing child cases?

[Miss Taken Identity]

first thing is...do these children have joint nationality...that is a very important point legally....I havent heard any doctors being called racist for highlighting FGM...waht a ridiculous claim

Should doctors and nursed have emailed you? phoned you? written perhaps. 

[Mr Gray]

Should doctors and nursed have emailed you? phoned you? written perhaps.

they could have told me ......did they tell you

[Miss Taken Identity]

they could have told me ......did they tell you

'They' were silenced by the confidentiality clause in their contract-  AND that ole chestnut about tolerance, respecting other rights blah blah- tell me? I was one of them dear!  I dared to speak up up for the silent suffering of British born children.

How about the grooming problem, which is endemic in this country, ignored for years and allowed to grow.  Why do you think that was allowed to happen? No one wanted to be called a racist  oh the fear on peoples faces.

Just for the record racism isn't a white man disease!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Oh I think it is very clear that is indeed the unwritten rule. The Uk police do not go to Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and vast parts of Africa to look for missing children who have been removed by their parents. There is nothing rascist about that at all. you can't have it both ways you know.

It is only recently when the PC brigade were shown out for the idiots they are,  that UK police can investigate and remove children who are abused for 'cultural' reasons.  Regardless of where this crime was committed.

Just so you are- aware many doctors and nurses in this  country who were highlighting this FGM abuse of British children for years were called rascist! by people like you.

Not by me they weren't.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If a British born child is abducted by a parent (of Asian or African descent), taken abroad to be abused (fgm for example) then should the UK authorities turn a blind eye to this?

[Alice Purjorick]

Are you offended by it?  If so why?

Scarcely, old stick!
Why do you think I should/would be ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Scarcely, old stick!
Why do you think I should/would be ?

because, me ol' mucker, you seemed to be under the misapprehension that the point of my post was to be offensive.  So relieved to know that despite this you were not at all offended.

[Miss Taken Identity]

so they didnt speak up so they wernt called racist...it was just you who spoke up...an ubsubstantaited claim..

so now you want to talk about grooming...are you sure you are on the right forum...you will probably take this as being silenceded..its not. the mighty well respected social workers have a lot to answer for re grooming but this is not the palce to discuss it

They did speak up they just didn't speak up outside their bases.

Why not research yourself and find pout about health professionals being branded nosey, trouble makers etc. for reporting FGM.

They didn't tell you so this means it didn't happen  hahahahaha 

I find it hilarious that you are trying tag me as a racist.

Islamophobia is a sound byte  there are many Muslims deeply offended by the behaviour of other Muslims from different cultures are they islamophobia?  ROTFL...

[Miss Taken Identity]

If a British born child is abducted by a parent (of Asian or African descent), taken abroad to be abused (fgm for example) then should the UK authorities turn a blind eye to this?

They have been. This is now being addressed and discussed openly within communities to educate and discuss the law regarding this 'cultural' cruelty.  Thank goodness. It was ignored and shunned due to this being an ethnic community thing and not to get involved. with the influx of 'refugees' and immigrants  from these cultures it will and is already overwhelming our stretched resources.

However, The British authorities have no remit to go into these countries and make arrests. We just don't have the funding or the resources. and that has nothing to do with Islamophobia as it happens in Christian areas of Africa and the middle east.

At one time no one would talk about the  sadistic catholic priest/nuns abuse of children over the centuries...my how things have changed.

[sadie]

They have been. This is now being addressed and discussed openly within communities to educate and discuss the law regarding this 'cultural' cruelty.  Thank goodness. It was ignored and shunned due to this being an ethnic community thing and not to get involved. with the influx of 'refugees' and immigrants  from these cultures it will and is already overwhelming our stretched resources.

However, The British authorities have no remit to go into these countries and make arrests. We just don't have the funding or the resources. and that has nothing to do with Islamophobia as it happens in Christian areas of Africa and the middle east.

At one time no one would talk about the  sadistic catholic priest/nuns abuse of children over the centuries...my how things have changed.

Thank goodness for that change.

If a priest abused, the standard punishment was to tell him not to do it again, then promote him to some other place miles away .... where it started all over again.

It happened several times, even at Ampleforth College, which is the Roman Catholic equivalent of Eton.  Basil Hume, the then headmaster and Abbott, kept it all under wraps, but then he was promoted to a Cardinal ... and it all came out.

Some sympathy has to be extended to him because he himself was educated at this Benedictine boarding school, so had likely been immersed in the culture for most of his life.

It was he that led the campaign for the lowering of the "Age of Concent" down to 14y.o.  IIRC.


JK Rowling based her Harry Potter books on Ampleforth College.  She talked extensively about it (half page+ in The Daily Telegraph) a few years ago

She also based ALBUS Dumbledore on BASIL Hume.   
Check it out if you dont believe me

bet this gets wiped or severely truncated!

[Vertigo Swirl]

They have been. This is now being addressed and discussed openly within communities to educate and discuss the law regarding this 'cultural' cruelty.  Thank goodness. It was ignored and shunned due to this being an ethnic community thing and not to get involved. with the influx of 'refugees' and immigrants  from these cultures it will and is already overwhelming our stretched resources.

However, The British authorities have no remit to go into these countries and make arrests. We just don't have the funding or the resources. and that has nothing to do with Islamophobia as it happens in Christian areas of Africa and the middle east.

At one time no one would talk about the  sadistic catholic priest/nuns abuse of children over the centuries...my how things have changed.

So in your opinion what criteria should exist before deciding to spend millions of pounds on an investigation into the disappearance or abduction of a missing child?

[jassi]

First criteria should be that the event took place within the UK.  IMO

[Robittybob1]

So in your opinion what criteria should exist before deciding to spend millions of pounds on an investigation into the disappearance or abduction of a missing child?

Without a doubt the issues raised in this thread are truly important issues.  I would think funding is parent generated, in that the more political an issue becomes the more funding the family will get IMO.

First criteria should be that the event took place within the UK.  IMO

But even it did and the stolen child ends up in Pakistan or Syria it is unlikely MPS is going to send a team there in hot pursuit.

[jassi]

Without a doubt the issues raised in this thread are truly important issues.  I would think funding is parent generated, in that the more political an issue becomes the more funding the family will get IMO.
But even it did and the stolen child ends up in Pakistan or Syria it is unlikely MPS is going to send a team there in hot pursuit.

I should think not. In those sorts of cases, they invariably involve removal by a parent, so the crime is probably only  one of ignoring a court ruling over custody.

[Vertigo Swirl]

First criteria should be that the event took place within the UK.  IMO

So you are against taxpayers money being spent on the search for either Madeleine McCann or Ben Needham then, even if there is clear evidence that initial investigations were flawed and even if there is a chance that one or both children may still be alive?