The name calling which marks this case out.

[Alice Purjorick]

So you would defend Kate's, description  of the two GNR as perfectly acceptable... Good

I would defend anyone's right to say what they pleased within the law.
They must of course accept that their utterances may show them up to be childish, ignorant or small beer and possibly all three.

[G-Unit]

I don't normally use it... I think it seriously lowers the tone of the forum.... But a senior mod has set the acceptable standards

You may not use the word, but you're happy to repeat it when it suits your argument. I wouldn't use it because it's very imprecise. In my opinion the whole group acted without due consideration for their children's safety in the evenings. One was sick, and may have had a lucky escape;

Boy, four, choked to death on his own vomit in hospital bed

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[Brietta]

You may not use the word, but you're happy to repeat it when it suits your argument. I wouldn't use it because it's very imprecise. In my opinion the whole group acted without due consideration for their children's safety in the evenings. One was sick, and may have had a lucky escape;

Boy, four, choked to death on his own vomit in hospital bed

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Daniel died while his mother was present at his bedside.

[G-Unit]

Daniel died while his mother was present at his bedside.

The point being that the same thing could have happened to any of those eight children in Portugal, but their doctor parents seemed oblivious to that possibility. They all lacked basic common sense and awareness of the way a child can go from fine to quite ill quite quickly. That, in my opinion, is a measure of their lack of parenting skills.

[Brietta]

The point being that the same thing could have happened to any of those eight children in Portugal, but their doctor parents seemed oblivious to that possibility. They all lacked basic common sense and awareness of the way a child can go from fine to quite ill quite quickly. That, in my opinion, is a measure of their lack of parenting skills.

Then in my opinion you chose precisely the wrong cite to emphasise your point as well as choosing to disregard the imputation of neglect in reference to Daniel's grieving parent.

There is no evidence, proof or even any speculation that any child died on May 3rd 2007 in Luz from inhalation of vomit ... unless you can provide evidence to the contrary ... but there is evidence and proof that one vanished from her bed.

[Brietta]

I would defend anyone's right to say what they pleased within the law.
They must of course accept that their utterances may show them up to be childish, ignorant or small beer and possibly all three.

In my opinion the above stills from Amaral's depiction of the scene from his book epitomises your sentiment precisely. 

I found the depiction indeed childish, ignorant, small beer as well as petty, mean and spiteful.

[Mr Gray]

I would defend anyone's right to say what they pleased within the law.
They must of course accept that their utterances may show them up to be childish, ignorant or small beer and possibly all three.

On that basis you should defend the mccanns choice if childcare as that too appears to be within the law

[Vertigo Swirl]

You just have to accept that some like to make a career out of becoming offended on behalf of others.
In my experience they frequently receive their just deserts at the hands of those very people on whose behalf they purport to be offended.

and yet some people seem terribly offended on the pj’s behalf about the fuvking tosser s and tweedle Dee comments.  Pathetic really IMO.

[Alice Purjorick]

On that basis you should defend the mccanns choice if childcare as that too appears to be within the law

Oh indeed!. In the same way I defend anyone who wishes to bet the ranch on the nose on a no hoper.
It's their right to do so but if they lose don't come to me looking for sympathy. I think if you bother to look you will find the only comment I have ever made about the McCann's childcare arrangements was "They gambled and lost".

[Alice Purjorick]

In my opinion the above stills from Amaral's depiction of the scene from his book epitomises your sentiment precisely. 

I found the depiction indeed childish, ignorant, small beer as well as petty, mean and spiteful.

Indeed. Consider there are two books about the topic one by the former SIO one by a former arguida.
Do you seriously believe either will deal accurately with fact?. As I have observed before "if you believe that then you will believe The Sound of Music was a serious socio/political commentary on 1930s Austria".
Bearing in mind the bear pit of which you are one moderator I am astonished how easily offended you are.

[John]

there are plenty of police officers “only doing their job” that could rightly be described using that term.  What makes members of the PJ exempt from criticism?  Kate was expressing her thoughts and feelings honestly in her book, if she thought they were f....ing tossers  at the time then she is simply faithfully recording events and thoughts as they happened.  Perhaps she shouldn’t have been so honest and therefore saved you from being so offended?

Then again perhaps she should have answered all the questions put to her frankly and honestly and then just possibly they could have been finally cleared of suspicion.  However, as it stands, the Portuguese Supreme Court in their final judgement made the extraordinary pronouncement to the effect that at things stand, they had not been cleared.

[John]

In my opinion the above stills from Amaral's depiction of the scene from his book epitomises your sentiment precisely. 

I found the depiction indeed childish, ignorant, small beer as well as petty, mean and spiteful.

 Is it any wonder the poor GNR officers couldn't get any sense out of them?  If I had come across such a scene in my former career my first thoughts would be to call a medic.

[G-Unit]

and yet some people seem terribly offended on the pj’s behalf about the fuvking tosser s and tweedle Dee comments.  Pathetic really IMO.

I'm not 'terribly offended on the pj’s behalf' at all. It was said about them, not to them. The Tweedledum and Tweedledee comment I find unwarranted and childish. Consequently I see Kate's decision to tell the world how her mind works as an error of judgement. Not everyone applauds when the police are abused.

[Erngath]

Is it any wonder the poor GNR officers couldn't get any sense out of them?  If I had come across such a scene in my former career my first thoughts would be to call a medic.

And you believe this to be an honest portrayel of the actions of those distraught parents?
Really?

[Erngath]

I'm not 'terribly offended on the pj’s behalf' at all. It was said about them, not to them. The Tweedledum and Tweedledee comment I find unwarranted and childish. Consequently I see Kate's decision to tell the world how her mind works as an error of judgement. Not everyone applauds when the police are abused.

I would imagine most police officers both here and in Portugal have been "abused" in much more colourful language than "Tweedledum and Tweedledee.
I hope they have received counseling to enable them to cope with such abuse.