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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #465 on: May 31, 2018, 08:48:27 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on May 31, 2018, 06:15:54 PM
If Tanner’s sighting was the abductor then the window and shutters would have been open from about 9.20pm and Matt couldn’t have failed to see it on his 9.30pm check but he didn’t. How to explain this? Have the curtains covering the window to explain why Matt didn’t see an open window but the curtains ‘ whooshing’ so that Kate did. Obvious reallly.

Pity this glaring error wasn’t spotted before the first round of questioning.
Because the wardrobe juts out into the room Matt would be unable to see the curtains blowing IMO.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #466 on: May 31, 2018, 08:50:08 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on May 31, 2018, 08:42:04 PM
Benefit of the doubt.  There is no law that says all people have perfect recall.

Nop, no benefit of the doubt.

Matt seems to have perfect recall about even the most minute details, it would be ridiculous to believe that his memory let him down on only this most contentious of issues.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #467 on: May 31, 2018, 08:52:02 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on May 31, 2018, 08:42:59 PM
Well put it on the balance.  I have more proof he did that you have that he didn't.
No, you have no proof either way.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #468 on: May 31, 2018, 08:52:52 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on May 31, 2018, 07:51:41 PM
The timeline had moved forward via Redwood so Madeleine would still have been in the bedroom.
May or may not have been in the bedroom.  No proof either way.
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Offline Robin Banks

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #469 on: May 31, 2018, 08:55:13 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on May 31, 2018, 06:01:41 PM
This post makes very little sense to me.  Why would she need to invent whooshing curtains?  Run that past us again...

Why not, Kate McCann never mentioned the whooshing curtains on the 4th May 2007 or the slamming door, so it could be invented IMO.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #470 on: May 31, 2018, 08:56:15 PM »
Quote from: ShiningInLuz on May 31, 2018, 08:52:02 PM
No, you have no proof either way.
As you have already agreed he turned on the light in the reconstruction.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #471 on: May 31, 2018, 08:57:05 PM »
Quote from: Robin Banks on May 31, 2018, 08:55:13 PM
Why not, Kate McCann never mentioned the whooshing curtains on the 4th May 2007 or the slamming door, so it could be invented IMO.
My question is why she would invent whoosing curtains.  I have had the answer and I think it’s ridiculous.
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Offline Erngath

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #472 on: May 31, 2018, 08:58:48 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on May 31, 2018, 08:50:08 PM
Nop, no benefit of the doubt.

Matt seems to have perfect recall about even the most minute details, it would be ridiculous to believe that his memory let him down on only this most contentious of issues.

Can I ask that as you seem to be most assured, convinced, definite that some of the Tapas group are either lying or  being deliberately evasive, have you passed these concerns to OG.
Or are you in the belief that they are already aware of these concerns?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #473 on: May 31, 2018, 08:59:13 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on May 31, 2018, 08:42:59 PM
Well put it on the balance.  I have more proof he did that you have that he didn't.

If the window was open how did it get that way ? OG are almost certain it wasn’t the abductor.
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Offline Robin Banks

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #474 on: May 31, 2018, 09:00:22 PM »
Quote from: barrier on May 31, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
Given the door didn't slam on his vist,is it likely the window was open.

There are only two Immediate witnesses to the window being open, the McCanns.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #475 on: May 31, 2018, 09:00:30 PM »
Quote from: Erngath on May 31, 2018, 08:58:48 PM
Can I ask that as you seem to be most assured, convinced, definite that some of the Tapas group are either lying or  being deliberately evasive, have you passed these concerns to OG.
Or are you in the belief that they are already aware of these concerns?

No you can’t ask.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #476 on: May 31, 2018, 09:02:42 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on May 31, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
If the window was open how did it get that way ? OG are almost certain it wasn’t the abductor.
On the balance of evidence I believe they were opened in an attempted burglary.  Madeleine awoke and the burglars  stopped their activity and left the scene disturbed. 
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Offline Erngath

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #477 on: May 31, 2018, 09:03:03 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on May 31, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
No you can’t ask.


Ok. And to use a much loved emoticon by another poster. ^*&&!

But really you should make them aware of your concerns.
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Offline Robin Banks

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #478 on: May 31, 2018, 09:19:21 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on May 31, 2018, 08:57:05 PM
My question is why she would invent whoosing curtains.  I have had the answer and I think it’s ridiculous.

The McCanns spent nearly a week in apartment 5a with all sorts of windows and doors open, so I suspect at one time or another the Children's bedroom door did slam shut, but not at the time stated.

Plus it makes the story so much more dramatic, don't you think?  What with Whooshing curtains and right at that time there's enough light beaming into the bedroom to see Maddie wasn't in her bed and straight away I knew she had been taken.

And that's even before she checked the rest of the apartment, sure it was invented. 

IMO
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Offline Robin Banks

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #479 on: May 31, 2018, 09:23:09 PM »
Quote from: Faithlilly on May 31, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
No you can’t ask.

I don't believe the Tapas 7 had any involvement whats so ever at the time of Maddie's disappearance.

IMO
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