What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom

[Vertigo Swirl]

So if the room was dark, how did Gerry see Maddie sleeping in her bed just by sticking his head around the door?

Perhaps the room wasn’t dark but you’ve just told us it was because Gerry said so.  Oh what a conundrum.

[Robin Banks]

Perhaps the room wasn’t dark but you’ve just told us it was because Gerry said so.  Oh what a conundrum.

Well if it wasn't dark then where was the light source coming from?  Not from outside the window, not from the small table lamp in the lounge area, IMO

[faithlilly]

And an empty stage.

I some times wonder what the public reaction would have been if burglars had visited and all 3 children were gone.

Or if Madeleine had swallowed some bleach and died, or the children had been killed in a fire etc, etc, etc. All more likely scenarios than abduction when leaving children alone.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well if it wasn't dark then where was the light source coming from?  Not from outside the window, not from the small table lamp in the lounge area, IMO

If there was any lights on outside and/or any light on inside there may well have been sufficient to make out sleeping forms in their bed / cots.  I can make out shapes of objects in our bedroom at night with the lights off and the curtains closed (these are heavy dark blue velvet curtains) thanks to a street lamp down and across the road which sends some light through the sliver of a gap between the curtains.  There's really no way of knowing one way or the other if it would be possible to make out sleeping forms of children in their beds in Apartment 5a without actually being there so IMO this discussion is pointless really, apart from it does serve as another opportunity for some people to imply that the McCanns are liars. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Or if Madeleine had swallowed some bleach and died, or the children had been killed in a fire etc, etc, etc. All more likely scenarios than abduction when leaving children alone.

In either of those scenarios there would have been a brief flurry of Daily Mail style outrage and then the name McCann would have been forgotten by pretty much everyone by about June 2007.

[Robittybob1]

If you believe the Tapas 7 engaged in a prank, then the fact that this has never been mentioned by any of them in their statements is lying and covering up, isn’t it?

I know what you mean but in the system in Portugal, as I understand it, as a witness you don't have to mention something that would incriminate yourself.  You need to be declared an arguido for those sorts of questions.

[Robittybob1]

Who's decided that things need categorising.

It was before my day.

[Robittybob1]

Do we have another taker for the prank theory?

Kate mentions something like pranks in her book.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I know what you mean but in the system in Portugal, as I understand it, as a witness you don't have to mention something that would incriminate yourself.  You need to be declared an arguido for those sorts of questions.

I think deliberately withholding vital evidence that would solve the mystery of a child's disappearance is surely a crime, even in Portugal?

[Robittybob1]

I can’t find one ,maybe removed ? Mentioned in other forums discussing this case anyway.

She may not have used the exact words you quoted but she came close to it.  I recall (IIRC) the word was joke or game.
"4078    ”Can you remember what conversation was going on in the time before Kate discovered Madeleine missing?”

 Reply    ”Well again now, because err you know when you’ve got a group of nine people you’re not all talking…”

 

 4078    ”No.”

 Reply    ”In the middle of the table, you know, I would be, I was probably talking to Russell when he came back you know and talking about the fact he’d got a new steak, he didn’t get a warmed up one. Err no I can’t remember any conversation, I mean obviously one of the jokes err probably was the fact of err Russell rescuing Matt, being able to steer the boat to pick him up out the water, you know.”"  from her rogatory interview.

[Robittybob1]

Can we have a cite for dark room please.

Silvia Batista talks of the dark room.

[Robittybob1]

So if the room was dark, how did Gerry see Maddie sleeping in her bed just by sticking his head around the door?

He obviously turned the light on.  Obvious solution IMO.

[Robin Banks]

If there was any lights on outside and/or any light on inside there may well have been sufficient to make out sleeping forms in their bed / cots.  I can make out shapes of objects in our bedroom at night with the lights off and the curtains closed (these are heavy dark blue velvet curtains) thanks to a street lamp down and across the road which sends some light through the sliver of a gap between the curtains.  There's really no way of knowing one way or the other if it would be possible to make out sleeping forms of children in their beds in Apartment 5a without actually being there so IMO this discussion is pointless really, apart from it does serve as another opportunity for some people to imply that the McCanns are liars.

Sleeping forms you say, but Gerry say's

I'd actually stuck my head around the door and I, I just lingered for a few seconds and thought how Beautiful she was erm and that's the last time I saw her.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Silvia Batista talks of the dark room.

She also mentions light coming in through holes in the blinds and the partially opened curtains, so...

[Vertigo Swirl]

Sleeping forms you say, but Gerry say's

I'd actually stuck my head around the door and I, I just lingered for a few seconds and thought how Beautiful she was erm and that's the last time I saw her.

IMO this is just another made up story.

That is your belief and you are entitled to hold on to it.  There is no evidence you are right of course.