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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #630 on: June 02, 2018, 05:55:22 PM »
She also mentions light coming in through holes in the blinds and the partially opened curtains, so...
We have discussed this before - you only get that light through the blinds or shutters if they were not fully down.
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Offline Robin Banks

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #631 on: June 02, 2018, 05:56:00 PM »
He obviously turned the light on.  Obvious solution IMO.

And risk waking up three sleeping Children?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #632 on: June 02, 2018, 05:57:32 PM »
Silvia Batista who says the room was dark when she entered was also able to a) discern the relative postion of bed and cots, and b) ascertain that Madeleine was not in the wardrobe.  How was she able to do so, in the dark? Hmmmm?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #633 on: June 02, 2018, 06:00:04 PM »
We have discussed this before - you only get that light through the blinds or shutters if they were not fully down.
The blinds have holes in them whether they are partially or fully down don't they?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #634 on: June 02, 2018, 06:04:21 PM »
The blinds have holes in them whether they are partially or fully down don't they?
There are photos of blinds down or partially down, there was a term called "slats" which is used.  It is the slats that let the light through. Slats open when the blind is not fully closed
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #635 on: June 02, 2018, 06:10:13 PM »
Silvia Batista who says the room was dark when she entered was also able to a) discern the relative postion of bed and cots, and b) ascertain that Madeleine was not in the wardrobe.  How was she able to do so, in the dark? Hmmmm?
The blind was partly up and the curtains were open at that stage.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #636 on: June 02, 2018, 06:11:44 PM »
And risk waking up three sleeping Children?
His concern was for Madeleine.  Not whether she was asleep but whether she was alive IMO.

If you are worried about your child being alive or dead, or hurt in some way, you're not so concerned about whether they wake up.  They'd fall straight back to sleep anyway.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #637 on: June 02, 2018, 06:17:00 PM »
The blind was partly up and the curtains were open at that stage.
My point was more about the fact that she, like Gerry, described the room as "dark" and like Gerry she also claims to have been able to see things in this dark room.  In any case you are wrong as she describes the blinds as "down".
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #638 on: June 02, 2018, 07:40:39 PM »
When did the shutters become blinds?
There is a fundamental difference.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #639 on: June 02, 2018, 07:47:49 PM »
When did the shutters become blinds?
There is a fundamental difference.
Since I started quoting from Silvia Batista’s statement:

She also recalls entering in the room where Madeleine should be sleeping and remembers now that the door was closed. The room was dark. The blinds were down, some light entering through their holes. The windows were closed and the curtains slightly open. Gerry, who followed her and the elements of the GNR, said he did close the window because of the babies sleeping in the room, a fact she confirms.
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Offline Robin Banks

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #640 on: June 02, 2018, 07:50:29 PM »
His concern was for Madeleine.  Not whether she was asleep but whether she was alive IMO.

If you are worried about your child being alive or dead, or hurt in some way, you're not so concerned about whether they wake up.  They'd fall straight back to sleep anyway.

In Gerry's statement on the 4th May he doesn't mention any concerns for Maddie, but on the 10th May he states he entered the Children's bedroom, nothing about switching lights on though. 

Offline Robin Banks

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #641 on: June 02, 2018, 08:09:00 PM »
Since I started quoting from Silvia Batista’s statement:

She also recalls entering in the room where Madeleine should be sleeping and remembers now that the door was closed. The room was dark. The blinds were down, some light entering through their holes. The windows were closed and the curtains slightly open. Gerry, who followed her and the elements of the GNR, said he did close the window because of the babies sleeping in the room, a fact she confirms.

She arrived an hour after Maddie went missing, so things had changed IMO

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #642 on: June 02, 2018, 08:52:52 PM »
She arrived an hour after Maddie went missing, so things had changed IMO
That is completely beside the point I was making.  The room she described as dark and yet was still able to see things in it.
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Offline Brietta

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #643 on: June 02, 2018, 09:08:30 PM »
That is completely beside the point I was making.  The room she described as dark and yet was still able to see things in it.

Well that seems to have sorted that one out.  If Sylvia could see in the darkened room ... so could Gerry and so could Kate.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What did Kate McCann really see in the Children's Bedroom
« Reply #644 on: June 02, 2018, 09:33:04 PM »
Since I started quoting from Silvia Batista’s statement:

She also recalls entering in the room where Madeleine should be sleeping and remembers now that the door was closed. The room was dark. The blinds were down, some light entering through their holes. The windows were closed and the curtains slightly open. Gerry, who followed her and the elements of the GNR, said he did close the window because of the babies sleeping in the room, a fact she confirms.

So are the fittings blinds or shutters ?
The photographs clearly indicate shutters so why call them something they are not even if Silvia Batista's statement calls them blinds? Is her statement non verbatim twice translated Portuguese unreliable?
Sound very much like it is if she can confuse blinds with shutters and hoodwink the worthies on here into believing that roller shutters are blinds.
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