Author Topic: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories  (Read 33595 times)

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Offline Brietta

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #75 on: May 22, 2018, 10:30:10 AM »
When Gerry and the other T9 were to do  their re-enactment would be using their selective memory.  That is why I thought the re-enactment was still on topic.

LOL, Robitty, I'm not actually sure how one would describe "selective memory" anyway.  It is all a matter of opinion and rank amateur opinion at that ... in my opinion.

Some events stand out in memory and some are completely forgotten.  Whenever reminiscing with old friends about certain shared events in our past I am always amazed at the different perspectives in which we viewed things at the time and what memories we carried forward from that as a result.
Good for a laugh if nothing else.

In my opinion it is horribly presumptive and intrusive to presume to know what another person should and should not remember. I doubt there is a member on this board who would appreciate in the slightest a similar pseudo psychiatric assessment being carried out on them.  Memories and the working of the mind are very personal and subjective and are not in my opinion for scoring a few debating points directed against a named individual using what is highly likely to be suspect data anyway.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #76 on: May 22, 2018, 03:33:30 PM »
LOL, Robitty, I'm not actually sure how one would describe "selective memory" anyway.  It is all a matter of opinion and rank amateur opinion at that ... in my opinion.

Some events stand out in memory and some are completely forgotten.  Whenever reminiscing with old friends about certain shared events in our past I am always amazed at the different perspectives in which we viewed things at the time and what memories we carried forward from that as a result.
Good for a laugh if nothing else.

In my opinion it is horribly presumptive and intrusive to presume to know what another person should and should not remember. I doubt there is a member on this board who would appreciate in the slightest a similar pseudo psychiatric assessment being carried out on them.  Memories and the working of the mind are very personal and subjective and are not in my opinion for scoring a few debating points directed against a named individual using what is highly likely to be suspect data anyway.

IMO many people have been convicted due to juries considering their inability to remember pertinent facts suspicious.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #77 on: May 22, 2018, 05:13:00 PM »
IMO many people have been convicted due to juries considering their inability to remember pertinent facts suspicious.
Can you give us some examples?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #78 on: May 22, 2018, 05:40:49 PM »

Well more like to look how well she was coping imo......to take in as much as what he did.

You just don't go to them lengths unless there is a reason.

He remembers every detail were at the time he did not know it was going to be the last time he saw her


Why did gmccann as D P to chech all was ok...didnt he say DP only stayed a couple of minutes ...or was something going on he says he went in and obviously stayed long enough to know that kate wasn't in a mood imo


  00:39:55 Reply "But err certainly enough time just to see, you know, certainly the apartment, there was nothing that was untoward, that was you know err the children all looked extremely happy,

there was no, you know signs of any problems with err you know Kate, you know or indeed the relationship that Kate had got with any of the three children. None of the children had been told off, none of the children looked like they were you know in trouble for anything, you know they were err still all talking and playing around. Err so you know it was just a very err transient you know that I'd gone in there, but as I say it just struck me how well they all looked.'

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #79 on: May 22, 2018, 07:22:11 PM »
Can you give us some examples?
I doubt Slarti could for the deliberations of the jury are fairly well guarded.   To know how a particular juror operated would be even more difficult to ascertain, so maybe Slarti is actually describing some personal event.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #80 on: May 22, 2018, 07:37:41 PM »
I doubt Slarti could for the deliberations of the jury are fairly well guarded.   To know how a particular juror operated would be even more difficult to ascertain, so maybe Slarti is actually describing some personal event.
Lol, maybe.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #81 on: May 22, 2018, 07:44:40 PM »
Lol, maybe.
Each member of the jury has their own method and reason for determining whether a person is guilty or not.  I've never been on a jury panel so I have no idea of how it operates within a person's head.  Do they have to explain themselves to the others?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #82 on: May 22, 2018, 08:06:02 PM »
Each member of the jury has their own method and reason for determining whether a person is guilty or not.  I've never been on a jury panel so I have no idea of how it operates withing a person's head.  Do they have to explain themselves to the others?

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #83 on: May 22, 2018, 08:07:06 PM »
Each member of the jury has their own method and reason for determining whether a person is guilty or not.  I've never been on a jury panel so I have no idea of how it operates withing a person's head.  Do they have to explain themselves to the others?
I think as a juror I would take a dim view of another juror citing a defenant’s imperfect memory as a reason for declaring them guilty, but then everyone’s different I guess.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #84 on: May 22, 2018, 08:46:58 PM »
I think as a juror I would take a dim view of another juror citing a defendant’s imperfect memory as a reason for declaring them guilty, but then everyone’s different I guess.
If they agreed with you over all would you still take a dim view? Like if you thought they were guilty and and so did they and one of the reasons they thought was the "defendant’s imperfect memory as a reason for declaring them guilty" would you care?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #85 on: May 22, 2018, 08:58:58 PM »
If they agreed with you over all would you still take a dim view? Like if you thought they were guilty and and so did they and one of the reasons they thought was the "defendant’s imperfect memory as a reason for declaring them guilty" would you you care?
I’d have to base my decision on solid, hard evidence, not my suspicions or vague notions based on a defendant’s inability to remember certain ‘pertinent’ details (like what time they left the tennis court - lol).
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #86 on: May 22, 2018, 09:04:47 PM »
I’d have to base my decision on solid, hard evidence, not my suspicions or vague notions based on a defendant’s inability to remember certain ‘pertinent’ details (like what time they left the tennis court - lol).
Have you had to do jury service?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #87 on: May 22, 2018, 10:05:15 PM »
Have you had to do jury service?
No.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #88 on: May 22, 2018, 10:18:38 PM »
No.

I've done it twice and my husband once.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #89 on: May 23, 2018, 09:09:03 PM »
I've done it twice and my husband once.

I’ve done it...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.