Author Topic: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories  (Read 33609 times)

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #90 on: May 23, 2018, 09:47:56 PM »
I’ve done it...

Me too; in the days of Quarter Sessions [pre 1972 & 1974 acts]. IIRC back in those days jurors had to be property owners. It was an eye opener not to mention very informative.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #91 on: May 24, 2018, 10:57:15 AM »
So far you have done nothing to convince me your post(s) extend beyond you believe it is daft simply because you wish to say it is so.
There is hardly a cogent argument proferred by your goodself to substantiate why the investigators would not wish to test statements to the point, if you will, "does it all hang together from 17:30 til 22:00" ?

Yes why test the statements from 17:30-22:00 these are very articulate, intelligent doctors for goodness sake.

Well maybe not as articulate as is first presented- So being a police service they probably thought it best to just check anyway. you know leaving no stones chucked at them for trying...

Ofcourse, all one has to say is. 'I can't remember'. So why were they trying to make a time line fit. why object to having this verified?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #92 on: May 24, 2018, 12:07:01 PM »
Yes why test the statements from 17:30-22:00 these are very articulate, intelligent doctors for goodness sake.

Well maybe not as articulate as is first presented- So being a police service they probably thought it best to just check anyway. you know leaving no stones chucked at them for trying...

Ofcourse, all one has to say is. 'I can't remember'. So why were they trying to make a time line fit. why object to having this verified?
Exactly - and the answer to why is?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #93 on: May 24, 2018, 12:13:26 PM »
Exactly - and the answer to why is?

Because they are well educated articulate(?)  doctors and that is what articulate(?) well educated doctors do [apparently].
Us mere peons cannot aspire to understand the machinations of the well educated and articulate(?)  mind.[apparently ...again]
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #94 on: May 24, 2018, 12:52:46 PM »
Because they are well educated articulate(?)  doctors and that is what articulate(?) well educated doctors do [apparently].
Us mere peons cannot aspire to understand the machinations of the well educated and articulate(?)  mind.[apparently ...again]
Well obviously I failed to articulate the question I was asking: "why were they trying to make a time line fit".
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #95 on: May 24, 2018, 01:58:11 PM »
Because they are well educated articulate(?)  doctors and that is what articulate(?) well educated doctors do [apparently].
Us mere peons cannot aspire to understand the machinations of the well educated and articulate(?)  mind.[apparently ...again]

 @)(++(*  I never mentioned well educated.. stop it Alice  hahahaha!

You know... I err.. um I might  .. it may have.. well actually the thing is ,you know errr I could have got that quote  err because you know,  it may have been wrong.

Very intelligent and  highly articulate.. yes, I am sure, but I maybe, you know, sort of...err... yes... um well  . you know.


And being so afflicted with such a burden, they must make the time line fit. Otherwise, It won't fit, and then what do we do? oh yes we become suspicious...
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #96 on: May 24, 2018, 02:09:05 PM »
I’d have to base my decision on solid, hard evidence, not my suspicions or vague notions based on a defendant’s inability to remember certain ‘pertinent’ details (like what time they left the tennis court - lol).

No reasoned rationale would enter your discussions then?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #97 on: May 24, 2018, 03:11:29 PM »
No reasoned rationale would enter your discussions then?
Oh, I’m sitting on a jury in a court of law now am I?
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #98 on: May 24, 2018, 07:23:32 PM »
Oh, I’m sitting on a jury in a court of law now am I?
The Court of Social Media.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #99 on: May 24, 2018, 08:15:14 PM »
Oh, I’m sitting on a jury in a court of law now am I?

According to you, yes. Relying on hard evidence and not speculating, apparently.
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Offline slartibartfast

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« Reply #100 on: May 24, 2018, 10:07:40 PM »
Oh, I’m sitting on a jury in a court of law now am I?

It is up to each juror to decide how much weight to give to each witness evidence.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #101 on: May 24, 2018, 10:10:15 PM »
According to you, yes. Relying on hard evidence and not speculating, apparently.
As a member of a jury in a court of law yes of course, on an internet chat room where no one’s liberty is at stake I’m a little more relaxed and permit myself to speculate.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #102 on: May 25, 2018, 07:13:22 AM »
As a member of a jury in a court of law yes of course, on an internet chat room where no one’s liberty is at stake I’m a little more relaxed and permit myself to speculate.

Theories or conjectures which have no supporting evidence are unlikely to convince whatever the setting.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2018, 08:06:29 AM »
Theories or conjectures which have no supporting evidence are unlikely to convince whatever the setting.
“IMO many people have been convicted due to juries considering their inability to remember pertinent facts suspicious”

Do you think that this is true?  Because that is the statement which elicted my response that I would not base my decision to convict on vague notions such as a defendant’s inability to remember (for example) precisely what time their husband left a tennis court. 

Incidentally I am under no illusions that anything I write will convince you of anything - despite your self-proclaimed open mindedness, I believe you made your mind up about the McCanns years ago.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2018, 09:19:54 AM »
“IMO many people have been convicted due to juries considering their inability to remember pertinent facts suspicious”

Do you think that this is true?  Because that is the statement which elicted my response that I would not base my decision to convict on vague notions such as a defendant’s inability to remember (for example) precisely what time their husband left a tennis court. 

Incidentally I am under no illusions that anything I write will convince you of anything - despite your self-proclaimed open mindedness, I believe you made your mind up about the McCanns years ago.

I have no idea how juries reach their conclusions but I would hope that they do it by looking at the evidence rather than relying on their personal opinions of a witness or accused person.

That's why I try not to give my opinions about why a witness gives evidence which doesn't fit with the known facts.That doesn't mean I have no opinions, just that they are, like anyone else's opinions, subjective and not provable. 

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