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Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2018, 09:43:36 AM »



Seems really OTT...why did he go into so much detail...too much info imo

Why did he have to stress on so much in so little time he was there. bit like the proud father moment

What was he expecting chaos ...because gmccann wasn't there. [g wasn't there but they were so at peace]

Gerry had asked me just to pop in and check everything was alright err with Kate or you know again I can't remember the exact reason whether he was just making sure it was alright that he could stay there and you know more time but you know he'd asked me to pop in.
So I walked back err from the tennis courts, err back to err you know Kate and Gerry's apartment and the time you know looking at, you know we've looked obviously at photographs since then and you know the time that we've got that I was you know going to Kate's about six thirty, err and I went into their apartment through the patio doors. The three children were all you know dressed you know in their pyjamas, you know they looked immaculate, you know they were just like angels, they all looked so happy and well looked after and content and I said to Kate, you know it's a bit early for the you know, for the three of them to be going to bed, she said ah they've had such a great time, they're really tired and you know err so I say, you know I can't remember exactly what, what you know the night attire, what the children were wearing but white was the predominant err colour, but you know just to reinforce they were just so happy, you know seeing you know obviously Gerry wasn't there but they were just all, just so at peace and you know they looked like a family who'd had such a fantastic time and err yeah then I left there, went and got my stuff, went back to the tennis courts and then err there was me, Matt and Russell and I think Gerry played a little, for a little while but he decided that he'd, he'd played enough tennis for that day and err was going back and so it left with me, Russell and err Matt and err Dan who was the, the you know the tennis coach from Mark Warner.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

So did he go to 5A at 6.30 or 6.40 as Kate remembered it? Did he pop back to report to Gerry then go to his apartment until 7.00, or did he just stay away until 7.00?

Regarding the episode where he spoke to David on the 3rd of May, he says that he was playing tennis at 18:30 when David appeared near the tennis court and asked him if he was going to continue playing. G. said he didn't know because Kate might be needing help to look after the three children, because they intended to bring them to the recreation area after their showers. He thinks that David offered to check if Kate needed help, which he did, and returned minutes later. Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

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Offline faithlilly

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2018, 09:45:18 AM »
Could it be that he waxed so lyrical because he was recalling events in the knowledge that just a few short hours later Madeleine had disappeared and this was the last time all children and mother were together?

But he would not have known that at the time so would have had no real reason to remember it.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2018, 10:43:12 AM »
But he would not have known that at the time so would have had no real reason to remember it.
As I said he was waxing lyrical with the benefit of hindsight - IMO.  In the same way that so many people can recall in great detail the last mundane moments spent with a missing person many years after the event, even though at the time they didn't know it was the last time they would see them.  No doubt if Madeleine had not gone missing this last encounter with the family of three kids would barely have registered in the memory a year later. IMO.. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2018, 10:47:03 AM »
Imagine your kid coming down for breakfast, having a chat about the forthcoming school day, cracking a joke about something said on the radio and then walking out the door at 8.30am.  If he comes home that evening then a week later pretty much everything said and done on that morning is likely to have faded from your memory.  If he doesn't come home that night or any subsequent day then you are naturally going to play over in your mind the last moments you spent with him and will undoubtedly remember them years later.  Which part of this is so difficult for people to understand?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2018, 11:14:39 AM »
So did he go to 5A at 6.30 or 6.40 as Kate remembered it? Did he pop back to report to Gerry then go to his apartment until 7.00, or did he just stay away until 7.00?

Regarding the episode where he spoke to David on the 3rd of May, he says that he was playing tennis at 18:30 when David appeared near the tennis court and asked him if he was going to continue playing. G. said he didn't know because Kate might be needing help to look after the three children, because they intended to bring them to the recreation area after their showers. He thinks that David offered to check if Kate needed help, which he did, and returned minutes later. Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

Do you uynderstand the movements that Gerry is saying David made?  " He thinks that David offered to check if Kate needed help, which he did, and returned minutes later. Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game." is all from Gerry's arguido statement.

Can you break each movement down to a specific time?

"He thinks that David offered to check if Kate needed help, which he did, and returned minutes later." When was this?
Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game."   Does that mean half an hour after  some earlier event?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2018, 11:55:48 AM »
Imagine your kid coming down for breakfast, having a chat about the forthcoming school day, cracking a joke about something said on the radio and then walking out the door at 8.30am.  If he comes home that evening then a week later pretty much everything said and done on that morning is likely to have faded from your memory.  If he doesn't come home that night or any subsequent day then you are naturally going to play over in your mind the last moments you spent with him and will undoubtedly remember them years later.  Which part of this is so difficult for people to understand?

But we’re not talking about the last moments are we, we are talking about days before.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2018, 12:02:18 PM »
But we’re not talking about the last moments are we, we are talking about days before.
Possibly the  day before.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2018, 12:03:34 PM »
Could it be that he waxed so lyrical because he was recalling events in the knowledge that just a few short hours later Madeleine had disappeared and this was the last time all children and mother were together?


Well more like to look how well she was coping imo......to take in as much as what he did.

You just don't go to them lengths unless there is a reason.

He remembers every detail were at the time he did not know it was going to be the last time he saw her

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2018, 12:15:25 PM »
But we’re not talking about the last moments are we, we are talking about days before.
We are talking about David Payne's recollection of his visit to Apartment 5a on the evening of 3rd May.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2018, 02:28:14 PM »
We are talking about David Payne's recollection of his visit to Apartment 5a on the evening of 3rd May.

No we’re talking about Gerry McCann’s selective memory.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2018, 02:31:52 PM »
No we’re talking about Gerry McCann’s selective memory.
I was responding to post #28.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2018, 02:36:19 PM »
Do you uynderstand the movements that Gerry is saying David made?  " He thinks that David offered to check if Kate needed help, which he did, and returned minutes later. Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game." is all from Gerry's arguido statement.

Can you break each movement down to a specific time?

"He thinks that David offered to check if Kate needed help, which he did, and returned minutes later." When was this?
Regarding his previous statement where he states that David returned half an hour later around 19:00, he says that he returned to the tennis court after half an hour, as this time frame refers to the second time he returned to the tennis court after getting ready for the game."   Does that mean half an hour after  some earlier event?

According to Gerry McCann;

18.30 David arrives at tennis courts, speaks to Gerry and then goes to see Kate.
A few minutes later he comes back, says Kate OK and Gerry can play on.
David then goes to his apartment, gets ready for tennis and returns at 19.00

According to Dianne and Fiona David was playing tennis when they arrived at the courts, and we know they arrived before seven. They say he returned to his own apartment at 19.10.

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2018, 02:41:48 PM »
According to Gerry McCann;

18.30 David arrives at tennis courts, speaks to Gerry and then goes to see Kate.
A few minutes later he comes back, says Kate OK and Gerry can play on.
David then goes to his apartment, gets ready for tennis and returns at 19.00

According to Dianne and Fiona David was playing tennis when they arrived at the courts, and we know they arrived before seven. They say he returned to his own apartment at 19.10.

All the more reason the McCanns, their tapas friends and a few others should have been compelled to return to Luz to take part in a construction of everything where the stories didn't add up. It could still be done if the Portuguese grew a backbone and stopped pandering to international political interference.
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2018, 02:44:00 PM »
All the more reason the McCanns, their tapas friends and a few others should have been compelled to return to Luz to take part in a construction of everything where the stories didn't add up.
you really think they would have been asked to reconstruct events from throughout the day?!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Angelo222

Re: Examples of Gerry McCanns Selective Memories
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2018, 02:46:13 PM »
you really think they would have been asked to reconstruct events from throughout the day?!

That is how police determine who is being evasive.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!