The last video taken of Madeleine McCann.

[Mr Gray]

Would you say that smoking causes lung cancer or would you say there's an association between smoking and lung cancer?

Both .you cannot deny you were quoting anecdotal evidence

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749017/

[Robittybob1]

Yet.  Your arguments sounds a little bit like “we’ve left our kids alone in the house and gone out drinking, and nothing bad has ever happened to them”.

All fine on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights but on Thursday we weren't so lucky.

[slartibartfast]

Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. As a child I was exposed to smoking in homes, on buses and trains, in cinemas, restaurants and theatres. I'm 74 and have no problems with my lungs.

My reply was more to Sadie’s anecdotal story, a chain smoking adult and non smoking daughter who died...

[G-Unit]

Both .you cannot deny you were quoting anecdotal evidence

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749017/

Both? There's a difference between a cause and a correlation.

[Brietta]

I am finding the argument about the last video of Madeleine very perplexing indeed.  We've all gone through stacks of old photographs to recall happier times when someone is no longer with us; reminisced about events and occasions; perhaps treasuring a voice on a voicemail?

The McCanns have been forced to share treasured photographic mementos of Madeleine with the world in the hope that someone may recognise her from them.

The time for that is long past.  Eleven years long past.  Yet the family is still to be castigated by invasive and petty scrutiny of all they have left of their daughter as epitomised by the discussion here.

In my opinion those who claim not to suffer from 'empathy' or compassion cannot see how decidedly weird the obsession with deriding every aspect of this family's existence is.

Nothing more so I think than forcing the association with the versatility of the word described by Wikipedia as a noun, a verb, an adjective, an interjection or an adverb.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/f..k

[Mr Gray]

Both? There's a difference between a cause and a correlation.

Do you think it's acceptable to smoke around children

[G-Unit]

Do you think it's acceptable to smoke around children

I think that people have become obsessed by the dangers of smoking. There are many dangers in the world; vehicle exhaust fumes, for example, are just as dangerous to a child, but parents who avoid cigarette smoke are happy to transport their children in cars.

“If more drivers knew the damage they could be doing to their children, I think they’d think twice about getting in the car.”
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/816148/air-pollution-cars-toxic-gases-children

[Mr Gray]

I think that people have become obsessed by the dangers of smoking. There are many dangers in the world; vehicle exhaust fumes, for example, are just as dangerous to a child, but parents who avoid cigarette smoke are happy to transport their children in cars.

“If more drivers knew the damage they could be doing to their children, I think they’d think twice about getting in the car.”
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/816148/air-pollution-cars-toxic-gases-children

I think to talk about the dangers of smoking being an obsession is ridiculous..
We should try and reduce all risks to our children...some of us do

[G-Unit]

I think to talk about the dangers of smoking being an obsession is ridiculous..
We should try and reduce all risks to our children...some of us do

Some people take risks, others don't. I. for example. always had an responsible person caring for my children. Others have been known to leave them home alone.

[Robittybob1]

Some people take risks, others don't. I. for example. always had an responsible person caring for my children. Others have been known to leave them home alone.

With regular checks .....

[Vertigo Swirl]

Some people take risks, others don't. I. for example. always had an responsible person caring for my children. Others have been known to leave them home alone.

If you smoke around children you do so in the knowledge that you are risking not only your health but that of your children’s also.  On top of that you are setting a very bad example to those children.

[G-Unit]

With regular checks .....

Allegedly.

[Mr Gray]

Some people take risks, others don't. I. for example. always had an responsible person caring for my children. Others have been known to leave them home alone.

Anyone who smokes around children is showing a serious disregard for their welfare....I wouldn't leave children alone...nor would I allow them to inhale passive tobacco smoke

[barrier]

Anyone who smokes around children is showing a serious disregard for their welfare....I wouldn't leave children alone...nor would I allow them to inhale passive tobacco smoke

What of noxious fumes from vehicles?

[Mr Gray]

What of noxious fumes from vehicles?

Some things cannot be completely avoided but can be kept to a minimum..or are you suggesting we just don't bother trying to look after our children at all