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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2018, 04:52:39 PM »
I don't see the problem.  Kate donated her own income from the royalties, as a member of the public, to the Fund.

The book was advertised as a fundraiser for the Fund. It said on the cover that all royalties would be donated to the Fund. Therefore Kate McCann was under a moral obligation to hand them over. Whether she did or not isn't known. The accounts have references to donations by Kate McCann, but whether they are all of the royalties she was paid no-one knows. Whether any other income generated by the book was donated no-one knows. Once again there is secrecy instead of openness and transparency.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #61 on: June 28, 2018, 05:01:25 PM »
From a bucket in a foyer placed by the mccanns - how did it turn out to a business...and why.


It is strange the speed - at which the company was set up.

According the the book madeleine, on Friday May 11th 2007 two men,neither of whom were named in the book

A paralegal and a barrister flew out to Portugal and had meetings with the mccanns 

that weekend (may 11,12,13) - these unnamed men, apparently suggested that the best way to proceed in the circumstances.... was to set up a limited company.

Why was this made out to be a charity - why did they want to take control of the money.

The company was incorporated on Tuesday May 15th and formally launched with much media hype on Wednesday May 16th.

What was the reason for the incredible hurry?

How did this help maddie.

How has the fund ever helped maddie
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2018, 05:03:31 PM »
From a bucket in a foyer placed by the mccanns - how did it turn out to a business...and why.


It is strange the speed - at which the company was set up.

According the the book madeleine, on Friday May 11th 2007 two men,neither of whom were named in the book

A paralegal and a barrister flew out to Portugal and had meetings with the mccanns 

that weekend (may 11,12,13) - these unnamed men, apparently suggested that the best way to proceed in the circumstances.... was to set up a limited company.

Why wasn't this just left as a charity - why did they want to take control of the money.

The company was incorporated on Tuesday May 15th and formally launched with much media hype on Wednesday May 16th.

What was the reason for the incredible hurry?

How did this help maddie.

How has the fund ever helped maddie

do you still not understand why it was not set up as a charity

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #63 on: June 28, 2018, 05:07:05 PM »
do you still not understand why it was not set up as a charity

Yes. But not why it couldn’t have been.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2018, 05:08:19 PM »
To be honest, if it was my daughter that had disappeared and I was completely innocent of any wrongdoing then I would spend ever hour I have looking for her in Portugual and not sitting on my backside in Rothley.  I don't care what anyone says, I think it very callous behaviour.
With or without your little children in tow?  When would you have given up, or would you still be there now knocking on doors?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Erngath

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2018, 05:08:59 PM »
From a bucket in a foyer placed by the mccanns - how did it turn out to a business...and why.


It is strange the speed - at which the company was set up.

According the the book madeleine, on Friday May 11th 2007 two men,neither of whom were named in the book

A paralegal and a barrister flew out to Portugal and had meetings with the mccanns 

that weekend (may 11,12,13) - these unnamed men, apparently suggested that the best way to proceed in the circumstances.... was to set up a limited company.

Why wasn't this just left as a charity - why did they want to take control of the money.

The company was incorporated on Tuesday May 15th and formally launched with much media hype on Wednesday May 16th.

What was the reason for the incredible hurry?

How did this help maddie.

How has the fund ever helped maddie

I've seen this claim before that the bucket in the foyer was placed there by one of the McCann family.
Is there a cite to show that this is true?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2018, 05:10:26 PM »
No one mentioned libel settlements - but there again the fund would have paid for them to sue.


Sweet nothing' is all that Team McCann feel the good people who donated to that Find Madeleine Fund are worthy of.

 
When you ask the public for money -  it is only right morally  to act with honesty, integrity and transparency, to produce full and detailed accounts and not produce only that which one is obliged to by law.
 
Only then, will those who donated be able to see exactly for what purpose the money has been used for.

What has actually been spent - looking for maddie. '
 
Transparency Team clearly don't agree!
John mentioned libel money, I responded, you jumped into the discussion between us.  Read back if you don't believe me.  Who do you donate money to on a regular basis, if anyone? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Erngath

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2018, 05:12:58 PM »
With or without your little children in tow?  When would you have given up, or would you still be there now knocking on doors?

It's an utterly ridiculous notion.
I've asked before......if Madeleine's parents arrived in PDL should they knock on every door?
Clamber down the many wells?
Break into empy properties?

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2018, 05:15:49 PM »
It's an utterly ridiculous notion.
I've asked before......if Madeleine's parents arrived in PDL should they knock on every door?
Clamber down the many wells?
Break into empy properties?

No just support the local people who searched and supported them.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2018, 05:16:58 PM »
People donated spontaneously. Some structure had to be set up to receive and manage them legally. Hence, the Fund. Otherwise, where would it have gone other than to their private bank accounts?

That is, indeed what we were told.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2018, 05:18:50 PM »
No just support the local people who searched and supported them.
Support them how? 
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2018, 05:26:54 PM »
I find that an extremely silly idea..

So it is a silly idea to want to do everything you possibly can to find your missing child?
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Angelo222

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2018, 05:30:07 PM »
THats exactly what the mccanns ahve done...and not only that persuaded SY to spend 12 million trying to solve the mystery..well done the mccanns

No...what they have done is get others to do the work for them.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Erngath

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2018, 05:30:29 PM »
So it is a silly idea to want to do everything you possibly can to find your missing child?

And they have.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2018, 05:34:48 PM »
No...what they have done is get others to do the work for them.

So what would you do?
Knock every door in Portugal?
Clamber down every disused well?
Break down the doors of empy properties?
Search the highways and byways of Portugal?
They have never relented from seeking the investigation be reopened.

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.