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Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #180 on: June 30, 2018, 07:04:21 PM »
I really wouldn’t encourage Faithlilly to judge, you know what the verdict’s likely to be...

For the purpose of debate, I'd like her to pick the bones out of it.

Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #181 on: June 30, 2018, 07:19:02 PM »
IMO
They already had sufficient funds to pay the PI's due in no small way to the backing received from wealthy benefactors. Perhaps they felt the old proverb "never look a gift horse in the mouth" was appropriate in their situation. What would you have recommended - refusing financial assistance when their family life remained at stake?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #182 on: June 30, 2018, 07:21:28 PM »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #183 on: June 30, 2018, 07:22:58 PM »
The judge of the first instance said the McCanns suffering wasn't caused by Amaral's book etc., but it had an effect on them. She awarded them 500,000 Euros on the strength of that.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #184 on: June 30, 2018, 07:28:54 PM »

IMO
They already had sufficient funds to pay the PI's due in no small way to the backing received from wealthy benefactors. Perhaps they felt the old proverb "never look a gift horse in the mouth" was appropriate in their situation. What would you have recommended - refusing financial assistance when their family life remained at stake?

At the time they launched the libel litigation they had no way of knowing how much money they would need to fund an ongoing investigation so to say that they had sufficient funds is just a nonsense.

They also had no idea how long the goodwill of wealthy benefactors like Brian Kennedy would last.

What would I have recommended? I would have recommended that the fund money should be used to search for their child.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #185 on: June 30, 2018, 07:38:15 PM »
At the time they launched the libel litigation they had no way of knowing how much money they would need to fund an ongoing investigation so to say that they had sufficient funds is just a nonsense.

They also had no idea how long the goodwill of wealthy benefactors like Brian Kennedy would last.

What would I have recommended? I would have recommended that the fund money should be used to search for their child.

At the time of launching the litigation they had no idea if Madeleine would be found or just how protracted the whole legal process would be. How did Amaral plan to fund his (extended) defence, given his knowledge of Portugal's justice system & case history mainly leaning in favour of the defamed back in 2009?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #186 on: June 30, 2018, 07:43:58 PM »
At the time of launching the litigation they had no idea if Madeleine would be found or just how protracted the whole legal process would be. How did Amaral plan to fund his (extended) defence, given his knowledge of Portugal's justice system & case history mainly leaning in favour of the defamed back in 2009?

Again the McCanns would have had no idea how long they would need to fund a private investigation. As parents surely making sure that the money needed for that was there would be their main priority?

As to Amaral he didn’t chose to fight the McCanns, he was forced to.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #187 on: June 30, 2018, 07:46:33 PM »
Again the McCanns would have had no idea how long they would need to fund a private investigation. As parents surely making sure that the money needed for that was there would be their main priority?

As to Amaral he didn’t chose to fight the McCanns, he was forced to.
if you attack someone as amara did don't be surprised if you have to fight them

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #188 on: June 30, 2018, 07:48:55 PM »
if you attack someone as amara did don't be surprised if you have to fight them

Yet again would the parents have sued if they had had to fund it themselves ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #189 on: June 30, 2018, 07:57:11 PM »
Again the McCanns would have had no idea how long they would need to fund a private investigation. As parents surely making sure that the money needed for that was there would be their main priority?

As to Amaral he didn’t chose to fight the McCanns, he was forced to.

Given the defamation laws at the time & Amaral's breach of his duty of reserve, I assume the legal advice the parents received indicated that they would be successful & rather than drain the search fund, any award would actually enhance it.

Amaral DID choose to fight the McCanns IMO; at least 80% of his book/documentary was dedicated to the  investigation of them.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #190 on: June 30, 2018, 07:58:43 PM »
Given the defamation laws at the time & Amaral's breach of his duty of reserve, I assume the legal advice the parents received indicated that they would be successful & rather than drain the search fund, any award would actually enhance it.

Amaral DID choose to fight the McCanns IMO; at least 80% of his book/documentary was dedicated to the  investigation of them.

A bit of a shock to them IMO.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Carana

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #191 on: June 30, 2018, 08:01:39 PM »
Again the McCanns would have had no idea how long they would need to fund a private investigation. As parents surely making sure that the money needed for that was there would be their main priority?

As to Amaral he didn’t chose to fight the McCanns, he was forced to.

"Forced to"?

Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #192 on: June 30, 2018, 08:04:45 PM »
A bit of a shock to them IMO.

More than a bit I would think, given the ease with which the 3rd arguido, not cleared by the same archiving report, managed to obtain substantial libel damages from the UK press who'd published defamatory material against him after using the same source - the PJ files.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #193 on: June 30, 2018, 08:17:17 PM »
Given the defamation laws at the time & Amaral's breach of his duty of reserve, I assume the legal advice the parents received indicated that they would be successful & rather than drain the search fund, any award would actually enhance it.

Amaral DID choose to fight the McCanns IMO; at least 80% of his book/documentary was dedicated to the  investigation of them.

Libel litigation is always a gamble. The McCanns would have known this.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #194 on: July 01, 2018, 06:51:54 PM »
It's a fact that the Fund isn't being as transparent as promised. If newspapers repeat damaging gossip, (which I think might be what you're referring to) they are still guilty of libel. It's true that there were derogatory comments in the files, it's not true that the comments were true.
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