Author Topic: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund  (Read 90621 times)

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Offline misty

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #195 on: July 01, 2018, 06:56:26 PM »
It's a fact that the Fund isn't being as transparent as promised. If newspapers repeat damaging gossip, (which I think might be what you're referring to) they are still guilty of libel. It's true that there were derogatory comments in the files, it's not true that the comments were true.

I wasn't referring to gossip.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #196 on: July 01, 2018, 07:16:25 PM »
Shouldn't we all be discussing the alleged 'secrecy' of Madeleine's fund?  What is the evidence ... I've seen nothing to justify such a claim so far ... is there any?
« Last Edit: July 01, 2018, 10:38:43 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #197 on: July 01, 2018, 07:18:21 PM »
Shouldn't we all be discussing the alleged 'secrecy' of Madeleine's fund?  What is the evidence ... I've seen nothing to justify such a claim so far ... is there any?

The fact that we have seen nothing justifies the claim IMO.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2018, 10:39:07 PM by John »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #198 on: July 01, 2018, 07:34:53 PM »
Madeleine's Fund makes a statement on it's website;

The Fund is following best practice governance procedures as set out in the Good Governance Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector.
http://findmadeleine.com/about_us/madeleines-fund.html

In my opinion they don't follow all the recommendations of that code;

https://www.charitygovernancecode.org/en
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #199 on: July 01, 2018, 08:18:12 PM »
The fact that we have seen nothing justifies the claim IMO.

We are all members of a discussion forum and one of the members was concerned enough to express concern by raising an allegation about Madeleine's Fund.

I have seen nothing raised in those posts which are actually on topic to justify the questions asked in the opening post.

In my opinion there has been nothing discussed here which justifies the sentiments outlined in the thread topic.

Interesting that you think the fact that because there are no post 'substantiating' the claim is justification for it, 
in my opinion, that isn't quite the way it works.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2018, 08:35:26 PM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #200 on: July 01, 2018, 08:21:32 PM »
We are all members of a discussion forum and one of the members was concerned enough to express concern by raising an allegation about Madeleine's Fund.

I have seen nothing raised in those posts which are actually on topic to justify the questions asked in the opening post.

In my opinion there has been nothing discussed here which justifies the sentiments outlined in the thread topic.

Interesting that you think the fact that because there are no post 'substantiating' the claim is justification for it  in my opinion, that isn't quite the way it works.

Whoosh.

As we have very little details as to how the fund is used, where the money is spent, where it comes from. It is, to all intents and purposes a secret fund with only outline information available.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2018, 08:24:29 PM by slartibartfast »
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #201 on: July 01, 2018, 08:36:28 PM »
Whoosh.

As we have very little details as to how the fund is used, where the money is spent, where it comes from. It is, to all intents and purposes a secret fund with only outline information available.

Is Madeleine's Fund operating within the law?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #202 on: July 01, 2018, 08:37:47 PM »
Is Madeleine's Fund operating within the law?

Did anyone suggest it wasn’t?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #203 on: July 01, 2018, 08:51:30 PM »
Did anyone suggest it wasn’t?
Can all Funds or businesses which operate within the law but which dont. go into great detail about what every penny is spent on be considered “secret”then?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #204 on: July 01, 2018, 08:56:32 PM »
Can all Funds or businesses which operate within the law but which dont. go into great detail about what every penny is spent on be considered “secret”then?

Only the ones which promised openness and transparency in my opinion.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #205 on: July 01, 2018, 09:34:05 PM »
Did anyone suggest it wasn’t?

So ... a perfectly legal Fund is being questioned - I refer you to the opening post.  Why ever would that be since there is absolutely no question of illegality.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #206 on: July 01, 2018, 09:36:23 PM »
Only the ones which promised openness and transparency in my opinion.
That shouldn’t make any difference- either they are secret or they are not.  What is the meaning of secret anyway?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #207 on: July 01, 2018, 10:01:04 PM »
So ... a perfectly legal Fund is being questioned - I refer you to the opening post.  Why ever would that be since there is absolutely no question of illegality.

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Madeleine's Fund - 'Leaving No Stone Unturned' is a not-for-profit company which has been established to find Madeleine McCann, support her family and bring her abductors to justice. The Fund is following best practice governance procedures as set out in the Good Governance Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector. The directors of the company are Brian Kennedy, Michael Linnett, Edward Smethurst, Jon Corner, Kate McCann & Gerry McCann. They have appropriate legal, business and charitable experience. An experienced Fund Administrator has been appointed to ensure the highest standards of transparency and accountability. This should enable the Directors to maintain an appropriate governance distance in the day-to-day operations of the Fund.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #208 on: July 01, 2018, 10:22:05 PM »
I don't get it.  The Maddie Fund was supposed to have been used to search for her so taking £1000's out to pursue the folly of a libel case would in itself damaged the fund and thus the search for Maddie.  I'm surprised the lower court never recognised this.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund
« Reply #209 on: July 01, 2018, 10:25:40 PM »
I don't get it.  The Maddie Fund was supposed to have been used to search for her so taking £1000's out to pursue the folly of a libel case would in itself damaged the fund and thus the search for Maddie.  I'm surprised the lower court never recognised this.

im surprised posters dont realise that amaral telling everyone maddie is dead and the parents know it doesnt just damage the search for maddie,,,...it ends it