Is the maddie fund.... now a secret fund

[Vertigo Swirl]

delete personal comment.

I doubt I’m unique, do you?

[slartibartfast]

Yes, if you read my post you will see I said so, the moment Madeleine is found.  No problem with that at all.

It could have been from the start, unless you are suggesting there would be too many calls on the fund to allow support for Madeleine.

[Brietta]

You appear to be agreeing it could have been set up as a Charity?

How would a fund set up for the benefit of Madeleine meet the Charity Commission's requirement 'for the public benefit'?

[slartibartfast]

How would a fund set up for the benefit of Madeleine meet the Charity Commission's requirement 'for the public benefit'?

Read http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9775.msg472338#msg472338

[Vertigo Swirl]

It could have been from the start, unless you are suggesting there would be too many calls on the fund to allow support for Madeleine.

The McCanns could have set up a charity to save the bees too, but why would they, when their child had just gone missing and thousands of people were sending thousands of unsolicited donations to them, to help them find THEIR child?  Why would or should they have been concerned with using the money to help ALL missing people at that time?

[kizzy]

Cite required, please

When was Madeleine's Fund set up and where has the money gone?
 
    
Madeleine's Fund timeline
03 May 2007
At 10.00pm Madeleine is reported missing.
06 May 2007
First website set up
 
The official Madeleine McCann website is launched under the domain name www.bringmadeleinehome.com - This does not have a 'donate' button and is a simple awareness site.
 
The Infohost site says: 'On the 6th of May Infohost received a call from Philomena McCann, Madeleine's aunt, asking if they would set up a website to help find her neice. The website was setup that day as www.bringmadeleinehome.com.'
11 May 2007
Lawyers fly in / 'No stone unturned' mentioned for first time

Portuguese newspapers report that this is the day lawyers flew into Portugal and met with the McCanns at the Ocean Club.

Extract:

English lawyers in Lagos

However, it is known to DN, that two British lawyers arrived Friday afternoon at The Ocean Club resort, and were staying there to advise the parents of Madeleine in this process. A situation that arises hours after the last presence of the parents with the PJ in Portimão, where they were interviewed for the second time, for long hours.

Although the PJ reiterate that the relatives and friends of Madeleine "do not fall under any suspicion," the presence of lawyers is nevertheless a curious fact, at a time when there is talk of a possible return to the United Kingdom by the couple. According to the PJ, there is no legal obligation to prevent the family and friends from leaving the country at this stage, since "nobody has been made an arguido".

Diário de Notícias (Portuguese language)

Gerry McCann reads a short prepared statement to the waiting press on the road outside their holiday apartment. He specifically emphasises that they will 'leave no stone unturned' in the search for Madeleine. He also mentions how grateful they are with the offers of support they have received both from home and around the world.

It would appear from this statement that the name of the company had already been decided and that this was a form of public preparation for the launch of Madeleine's Fund. Video link here.


http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id58.htm

[Brietta]

When was Madeleine's Fund set up and where has the money gone?
 
    
Madeleine's Fund timeline
03 May 2007
At 10.00pm Madeleine is reported missing.
06 May 2007
First website set up
 
The official Madeleine McCann website is launched under the domain name www.bringmadeleinehome.com - This does not have a 'donate' button and is a simple awareness site.
 
The Infohost site says: 'On the 6th of May Infohost received a call from Philomena McCann, Madeleine's aunt, asking if they would set up a website to help find her neice. The website was setup that day as www.bringmadeleinehome.com.'
11 May 2007
Lawyers fly in / 'No stone unturned' mentioned for first time

Portuguese newspapers report that this is the day lawyers flew into Portugal and met with the McCanns at the Ocean Club.

Extract:

English lawyers in Lagos

However, it is known to DN, that two British lawyers arrived Friday afternoon at The Ocean Club resort, and were staying there to advise the parents of Madeleine in this process. A situation that arises hours after the last presence of the parents with the PJ in Portimão, where they were interviewed for the second time, for long hours.

Although the PJ reiterate that the relatives and friends of Madeleine "do not fall under any suspicion," the presence of lawyers is nevertheless a curious fact, at a time when there is talk of a possible return to the United Kingdom by the couple. According to the PJ, there is no legal obligation to prevent the family and friends from leaving the country at this stage, since "nobody has been made an arguido".

Diário de Notícias (Portuguese language)

Gerry McCann reads a short prepared statement to the waiting press on the road outside their holiday apartment. He specifically emphasises that they will 'leave no stone unturned' in the search for Madeleine. He also mentions how grateful they are with the offers of support they have received both from home and around the world.

It would appear from this statement that the name of the company had already been decided and that this was a form of public preparation for the launch of Madeleine's Fund. Video link here.


http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id58.htm

Have you actually read that in any depth?

Anyway ... what about the cloak and dagger stuff no-one seems too interested in and the topic of the thread ... the allegation about the 'secret' fund.

Topic, please.

[Robittybob1]

The thing with that is - why didnt it start off as a charity .

Why was it made a mccann fund in a week - of maddie going missing

How did they know maddie - was not going to be found.

And now you explain how you know they knew!

[slartibartfast]

The McCanns could have set up a charity to save the bees too, but why would they, when their child had just gone missing and thousands of people were sending thousands of unsolicited donations to them, to help them find THEIR child?  Why would or should they have been concerned with using the money to help ALL missing people at that time?

A Charity to save bees would not have helped Madeleine. It sounds to me like you are suggesting they didn’t make it a Charity because other people may have wanted to access the fund in their time of need.

[Vertigo Swirl]

A Charity to save bees would not have helped Madeleine. It sounds to me like you are suggesting they didn’t make it a Charity because other people may have wanted to access the fund in their time of need.

I most certainly am not suggesting that, I’m suggesting that to expect the parents of a missing child who have just lost that child to set up a charity with funds sent to them to look for their own child, at a time when finding their child was their top priority, is more than a little unreasonable IMO.

[Robittybob1]

If the Fund wishes to behave like a limited company there's nothing stopping it except it's promise on it's website to behave like a charity. They should change their behaviour or withdraw that promise.

So what was the promise?  Is that promise still on the website?

[Alice Purjorick]

Can a charity be set up for the benefit of one child?

ETA:  the answer would appear to be “no”, https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/charitable-purposes/charitable-purposes

No. But who said it could?
The notion was just introduced by you as a question and is irrelevant.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No. But who said it could?
The notion was just introduced by you as a question and is irrelevant.

What was the purpose of your bullet point post then, if not to imply that the McCanns were somehow morally lacking for failing to set up the “Foundation” (sic) as a charity?

[Robittybob1]

No. But who said it could?
The notion was just introduced by you as a question and is irrelevant.

No its not.

[faithlilly]

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/april-jones-fund-23-groups-6448411

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/april-jones-fund-trustees-astounded-6114517

http://www.countytimes.co.uk/news/15833286.Missing_April_Jones__fund_to_be_registered_as_a_charity/