Timeline May 3rd

[mrswah]

So you think the company would not be blamed  and sued for negligence?

Of course it would have done, and those in charge of the children would have been sacked in disgrace-----IMO.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I don't agree with the McCann's leaving their children alone,  they thought it was safe to do so,  they were staying on a child friendly site.   They checked the children.   No one expects someone to take their child do they?

No but if your child is known to wake and wander you’d worry that they might just do that and / or cry for more than an hour.... imo

[kizzy]

The abductor.

So if you went out and left the door unlocked and got burgled - you would blame the thief.

But your insurance wouldn't ...they would blame you and not payout.

Not only did the mccs leave them in an unlocked room it was near a road.

No safety whatsoever was thought about for the children ...and they suppose to be the professionals  in child care

[mrswah]

It was not the McCann's fault Madeleine was abducted,  its the fault of the sick individual who took her.  Children are taken in the day time,  should the parents have been watching them then?   One child was taken from her bath,  should the mother have known that was going to happen?

I don't blame the McCanns.

I suspect they were under a false sense of security because they were on holiday in a child-friendly resort. After all, their friends did exactly the same as them; they were just luckier.

I doubt very much whether any of them would have left their children home alone normally.

I doubt any of them would have done so had they had any inkling of paedophiles being in the area, either. One just doesn't think about that sort of thing when on holiday.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Nobody else?

You don't think the company would be pilloried and sued for negligence ?

You think the parents would have shrugged and said it was just one of those things ?

If the nannies left the kids and went to the bar there would be an outcry!!

[barrier]

I don't blame the McCanns.

I suspect they were under a false sense of security because they were on holiday in a child-friendly resort. After all, their friends did exactly the same as them; they were just luckier.

I doubt very much whether any of them would have left their children home alone normally.

I doubt any of them would have done so had they had any inkling of paedophiles being in the area, either. One just doesn't think about that sort of thing when on holiday.

There were various reports at the time that paedo's were involved ,some one knew allegedly.

[Brietta]

No but if your child is known to wake and wander you’d worry that they might just do that and / or cry for more than an hour.... imo

PJ Final Report
As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely ...
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

Madeleine was a light sleeper who when younger had been known to come into her parents bed during the night.  That is what the star chart that Amaral thought suspicious was all about.

The 'woke and wandered' theory was discarded early on in the investigation for 'drugged and fell off the sofa theory' promoted by Amaral and later on the Final Report found it highly unlikely.

What does your little snipe have to do with the thread topic though?

[Wonderfulspam]

I don't blame the McCanns.

I suspect they were under a false sense of security because they were on holiday in a child-friendly resort. After all, their friends did exactly the same as them; they were just luckier.

I doubt very much whether any of them would have left their children home alone normally.

I doubt any of them would have done so had they had any inkling of paedophiles being in the area, either. One just doesn't think about that sort of thing when on holiday.

On the afternoon of May 3rd, Kate was relaxing on the grass, watching Gerry play tennis & having a friendly chat about paedophiles.

Madeleine page 64.

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't blame the McCanns.

I suspect they were under a false sense of security because they were on holiday in a child-friendly resort. After all, their friends did exactly the same as them; they were just luckier.

I doubt very much whether any of them would have left their children home alone normally.

I doubt any of them would have done so had they had any inkling of paedophiles being in the area, either. One just doesn't think about that sort of thing when on holiday.

According to the Mc's and T7 only the Mc's exited for tapas via the patio doors which can't be locked from outside.

[Brietta]

On the afternoon of May 3rd, Kate was relaxing on the grass, watching Gerry play tennis & having a friendly chat about paedophiles.

Madeleine page 64.

What is the relevance of this to the thread topic?

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't blame the McCanns.

I suspect they were under a false sense of security because they were on holiday in a child-friendly resort. After all, their friends did exactly the same as them; they were just luckier.

I doubt very much whether any of them would have left their children home alone normally.

I doubt any of them would have done so had they had any inkling of paedophiles being in the area, either. One just doesn't think about that sort of thing when on holiday.

You would think KM more than anyone would be alert to paedophiles found in the most unlikely of places ie her church, the Catholic Church!

[Eleanor]

The NSPCC don't have a caveat yet, perhaps someone should suggest it;

Infants and young children aged 0-3 years old should never be left alone – even for 15 minutes while you pop down the road. This applies not just to leaving them home alone but also in your car while you run into the shops or in another room on their own.
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/in-the-home/home-alone/#age

Maybe they should add "Unless on holiday in a resort which you consider to be child-friendly and safe and you check on them every 30 minutes"

The NSPCC do not have any Legal Rights and never will have.  What you are expecting isn't even reasonable.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

PJ Final Report
As a remote hypothesis, the possibility of the minor leaving the apartment by her own means was explored – that would be highly unlikely ...
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

Madeleine was a light sleeper who when younger had been known to come into her parents bed during the night.  That is what the star chart that Amaral thought suspicious was all about.

The 'woke and wandered' theory was discarded early on in the investigation for 'drugged and fell off the sofa theory' promoted by Amaral and later on the Final Report found it highly unlikely.

What does your little snipe have to do with the thread topic though?

I meant woke and wandered around the apartment.

[Lace]

The NSPCC don't have a caveat yet, perhaps someone should suggest it;

Infants and young children aged 0-3 years old should never be left alone – even for 15 minutes while you pop down the road. This applies not just to leaving them home alone but also in your car while you run into the shops or in another room on their own.
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/in-the-home/home-alone/#age

Maybe they should add "Unless on holiday in a resort which you consider to be child-friendly and safe and you check on them every 30 minutes"

The McCann's were interviewed by Social Services,  what more do you want?   This is just a diversion by Amaral to cover up the mess he made of the investigation.   Whether they left the children or not,  they deserved a better investigation than the one they had from Amaral where he was hell bent on accusing the parents.

[Lace]

No but if your child is known to wake and wander you’d worry that they might just do that and / or cry for more than an hour.... imo

The McCann's said if Madeleine woke up it would normally be in the early hours of the morning.

I don't believe that Madeleine cried for an hour,  it is more likely it was the Tuesday night when Amelie woke and cried which woke Sean who cried and then Madeleine woke and called Daddy. IMO