Timeline May 3rd

[The General]

The McCann's said if Madeleine woke up it would normally be in the early hours of the morning.

I don't believe that Madeleine cried for an hour,  it is more likely it was the Tuesday night when Amelie woke and cried which woke Sean who cried and then Madeleine woke and called Daddy. IMO

Well that makes perfect sense, because that's the only time at night that they were actually there to witness it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes, they do. It's a simple risk assessment. At the very least they totally miscalculated the risk. Doctor's do risk assessment in their sleep.
If they would have locked the door as a control measure, that risk becomes almost nil.
And the PJ are idiots? The conceit.

Interesting take on it, that you perceive by far the biggest risk to the children to be either someone coming in and harming the kids or the kids coming to harm after leaving the apartment via the unlocked door, and that the risks posed to them from fire, drowning, choking, falling, electrocution  etc would have been almost nil.

[The General]

Interesting take on it, that you perceive by far the biggest risk to the children to be either someone coming in and harming the kids or the kids coming to harm after leaving the apartment via the unlocked door, and that the risks posed to them from fire, drowning, choking, falling, electrocution  etc would have been almost nil.

I love how you log on at the same time every day and fish out my posts to reply to in your inimitable, eloquent manner. It's quite flattering.

[Lace]

So if you went out and left the door unlocked and got burgled - you would blame the thief.

But your insurance wouldn't ...they would blame you and not payout.

Not only did the mccs leave them in an unlocked room it was near a road.

No safety whatsoever was thought about for the children ...and they suppose to be the professionals  in child care

Didn't the Portuguese say there was no intent?  That they couldn't have forseen  the events that happened?   Madeleine was asleep in her bed she should have been safe.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I love how you log on at the same time every day and fish out my posts to reply to in your inimitable, eloquent manner. It's quite flattering.

I love how you notice what time I log on every day, almost as if you were waiting for me to do so, love you too honeybear xx

[The General]

Didn't the Portuguese say there was no intent?  That they couldn't have forseen  the events that happened?   Madeleine was asleep in her bed she should have been safe.

It's the definition of 'safe' that's the problem.
Is it reasonably foreseeable, which is the legal test, that a wee an would, at the very least, wake and wander through an unlocked holiday apartment door looking for her parents?
Yes.

[Eleanor]

Didn't the Portuguese say there was no intent?  That they couldn't have forseen  the events that happened?   Madeleine was asleep in her bed she should have been safe.

Yes.  The Portuguese did say that.

[The General]

I love how you notice what time I log on every day, almost as if you were waiting for me to do so, love you too honeybear xx

Oooookayyyy......
Incidentally, coincidentally, Honeybear was remarkably close to my call sign on an op once.....honey badger. Good times.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Oooookayyyy......
Incidentally, coincidentally, Honeybear was remarkably close to my call sign on an op once.....honey badger. Good times.

Honeybadger it is then.... 

[jassi]

I love how you notice what time I log on every day, almost as if you were waiting for me to do so, love you too honeybear xx

I've also noticed that you log on at about 16.30.
I imagine you rushing home hot foot from work to see what you've missed. 

[Lace]

I've just been reading Russell O'Brian's statement again.

He says he didn't get back to the table until quarter to 10,  he was about to eat his meal when the waiter said no it's cold and took it away.   He says it was about ten minutes before the waiter came back with a fresh meal for him.  Someone asked the time and someone said it was about 10 o'clock that is when Kate got up to do her check.

[mrswah]

You would think KM more than anyone would be alert to paedophiles found in the most unlikely of places ie her church, the Catholic Church!

I, too, am a Catholic, and only too aware of the dreadful things that have happened within the Church. However, we went on several holidays with small children, and it would never have occurred to me that a holiday resort would also be home to  paedophiles. Nor would it have occurred to me that there might be one or more living close to my home!

[Vertigo Swirl]

I've also noticed that you log on at about 16.30.
I imagine you rushing home hot foot from work to see what you've missed. 

Who knew I created such interest around these parts?! 

[pathfinder73]

The McCann's said if Madeleine woke up it would normally be in the early hours of the morning.

I don't believe that Madeleine cried for an hour,  it is more likely it was the Tuesday night when Amelie woke and cried which woke Sean who cried and then Madeleine woke and called Daddy. IMO

The police have a witness statement that said it was Maddy who was crying. Sean and Amelie didn't have a star chart. The way they both slept on 3 May 2007 I doubt they had any problems sleeping unless you can provide some evidence? And don't say because the McCanns said so! Get another source.

[Robittybob1]

I've just been reading Russell O'Brian's statement again.

He says he didn't get back to the table until quarter to 10,  he was about to eat his meal when the waiter said no it's cold and took it away.   He says it was about ten minutes before the waiter came back with a fresh meal for him.  Someone asked the time and someone said it was about 10 o'clock that is when Kate got up to do her check.

Keep focusing on what ROB says and you might crack it.  Remember he was the writer of 1 of the 2 timelines on the scrapbook covers.