Timeline May 3rd

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't remember it involving Gerry rushing off anywhere before meeting up with Jes.

It involved removing the body and hiding it before meeting Jes - ask Pathfinder.

[G-Unit]

It involved removing the body and hiding it before meeting Jes - ask Pathfinder.

I don't think it involved seeing the Smiths before seeing Jes.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't think it involved seeing the Smiths before seeing Jes.

No, perhaps not, but certainly involved the body being moved twice that night, once before Jes and once after.

[kizzy]

What an incompetent bunch of criminals if they couln't even ensure to get their stories to add up and what an incompetent bunch of cops who weren't able to nail them on the strength of it.

Well they let  20 odd people trample round  apartment contaminating everything.

Even though kmccann had searched it and knew maddie had been abducted.

Caused no end of confusion - before ringing police imo.

Supposedly jemmied shutters.- lifting them up and down.

Didn't answer 48 questions.

Then cleared off home - no more questions could be asked.

IMO that could have lost evidence forever - no wonder they didn't have enough evidence. IMO

[faithlilly]

What an incompetent bunch of criminals if they couln't even ensure to get their stories to add up and what an incompetent bunch of cops who weren't able to nail them on the strength of it.

That’s the point though isn’t it ? They weren’t criminals. They were just 9 holidaymakers who found themselves in an unimaginable situation and IMO did all they could to negate the damage done to themselves and their families.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well they let  20 odd people trample round  apartment contaminating everything.

Even though kmccann had searched it and knew maddie had been abducted.

Caused no end of confusion - before ringing police imo.

Supposedly jemmied shutters.- lifting them up and down.

Didn't answer 48 questions.

Then cleared off home - no more questions could be asked.

IMO that could have lost evidence forever - no wonder they didn't have enough evidence. IMO

Are you blaming the McCanns for the inability of the police to find sufficient evidence to prosecute them?

[Robittybob1]

Lace was a bit muddled up there for sure.  Unless the story has been really badly told.

[Brietta]

That’s the point though isn’t it ? They weren’t criminals. They were just 9 holidaymakers who found themselves in an unimaginable situation and IMO did all they could to negate the damage done to themselves and their families.

You mean this bunch of amateurs without a criminal thought in their heads or between them not a single conviction for anything, were able to out think the trained professionals who were on their case?
There you go then.  If that makes sense to you and others ... that's fine by me.

[G-Unit]

Lace was a bit muddled up there for sure.  Unless the story has been really badly told.

There are often differences between what people say was said or done and what was actually said or done.

[G-Unit]

You mean this bunch of amateurs without a criminal thought in their heads or between them not a single conviction for anything, were able to out think the trained professionals who were on their case?
There you go then.  If that makes sense to you and others ... that's fine by me.

What trained professionals? According to some the PJ were untrained and unprofessional, relying on beating confessions out of their suspects rather than bothering to do any detecting.

[Brietta]

What trained professionals? According to some the PJ were untrained and unprofessional, relying on beating confessions out of their suspects rather than bothering to do any detecting.

                            Topic please.

[Robittybob1]

There are often differences between what people say was said or done and what was actually said or done.

Add to that language barrier and two lots of translations!

[G-Unit]

Add to that language barrier and two lots of translations!

I don't think those excuses apply to what pathfinder has said.

[pathfinder73]

Interesting that you choose to tell us Jez and Gerry talked for “around 3 minutes” when what he actually said was “The conversation lasted for approximately three to five minutes”.

LP went round to clarify and this was written in their report.

"The conversation with Gerry lasted for about three minutes during which Gerry was chatty and in his normal self. Jeremy then made his way back to his apartment." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY_BRIGET.htm

[Brietta]

LP went round to clarify and this was written in their report.

"The conversation with Gerry lasted for about three minutes during which Gerry was chatty and in his normal self. Jeremy then made his way back to his apartment." http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY_BRIGET.htm

The conversation lasted for approximately three to five minutes.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

It is all approximate though isn't it?  No-one had a clue about the time of anything.