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Offline faithlilly

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #240 on: June 30, 2020, 12:47:35 PM »
There was no live police investigation at the time the 2 Smith family members helped construct the efits. Who would have handled the information received following any public appeal? Furthermore, in helping with the efits, the Smith family showed themselves to be unreliable witnesses for the PJ in any future prosecution.

Why have the efits commissioned then ?
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Offline misty

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #241 on: June 30, 2020, 01:36:58 PM »
Why have the efits commissioned then ?

That's rather like asking why the Smiths waited 16 months to not help PJ find Madeleine or a potential abductor.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #242 on: June 30, 2020, 01:44:11 PM »
The fact that OG have accepted the group's timeline makes it of interest. Their 'clearing of the ground' seems to rely on accepting the uncorroberated timeline offered by those who were suspected.

Don’t forget that OG still have the DNA digital data from the FSS. Surely the pressure to use modern testing methods would be impossible to resist if there are any charges or a court case.

Offline Lace

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #243 on: June 30, 2020, 01:47:37 PM »
Gerry McCann may have been at the Tapas table when the alarm was raised, but where's the evidence which confirms that it was raised at 10pm? There's evidence suggesting the alarm was raised earlier.

How much earlier?   Gerry was there to eat his dinner and there when Kate give the alarm.

Offline jassi

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #244 on: June 30, 2020, 01:58:48 PM »
Don’t forget that OG still have the DNA digital data from the FSS. Surely the pressure to use modern testing methods would be impossible to resist if there are any charges or a court case.

The existing digital date is only going to be as good as it was in 2007.
To benefit from newer DNA  technology, the samples would need to be re-analysed - with the exception perhaps  of Perlin's computerised analysis.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #245 on: June 30, 2020, 02:06:06 PM »
How much earlier?   Gerry was there to eat his dinner and there when Kate give the alarm.


But gone for half an hour according to an independent witness and who was with him AFTER the alarm was raised??

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #246 on: June 30, 2020, 02:26:56 PM »
The existing digital date is only going to be as good as it was in 2007.
To benefit from newer DNA  technology, the samples would need to be re-analysed - with the exception perhaps  of Perlin's computerised analysis.

Dr Perlin’s method has already been tested in court cases. If there is a court case the demands for either the prosecution or defence will, imo, be too great to ignore.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #247 on: June 30, 2020, 02:55:28 PM »
There was no live police investigation at the time the 2 Smith family members helped construct the efits. Who would have handled the information received following any public appeal? Furthermore, in helping with the efits, the Smith family showed themselves to be unreliable witnesses for the PJ in any future prosecution.

Who handled the information received following other appeals when there was no live police investigation?

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Offline kizzy

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #248 on: June 30, 2020, 03:05:42 PM »
How much earlier?   Gerry was there to eat his dinner and there when Kate give the alarm.


It could quite easily have been earlier its easy done to not have exact times.

Ten minutes here ten minutes there how many times is around tenish used but not meaning dead on ten.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #249 on: June 30, 2020, 04:12:55 PM »
Who handled the information received following other appeals when there was no live police investigation?





I don’t know why you’re even discussing the Smith family: Martin Smith said YEARS ago that he must have been mistaken.

Interestingly, when he said he watched the news and saw Gerry McCann walking down the steps of the aircraft & had a sudden “flashback”, his wife blatantly refused to agree with him and told the police so, too. So she didn’t “see” what MS thought he saw.

Furthermore, he and his family had arrived in Portugal from Ireland that day and had spent a good few hours in a bar drinking. How much he’d drunk isn’t known, but he must have downed quite a few in those good few hours.  But given his door-to-door journey time, and how tired he probably was on top of all his booze, it’s surprising he took in so much detail — and in the dark too...

The two photo-fits he and his family gave are quite different, too...which begs the question: either he or his family were wrong, or couldn’t see properly...

That flashback he had was probably “false memory syndrome” and whatever man had walked down those aircraft steps would have triggered a wrong impression in his head.

In the event, none of it matters as it’s been irrevocably proved that Gerry was inside the Tapas Bar at the time he claimed he saw this man and child.

But looking again at the photo-fits, and studying them with allowances for error, I can actually see a resemblance to to CB. Same hairline. Same long upper lip.  Chiselled jaw (in one of the two pics), and going by his description of age, build (slim) it resembles CB in some ways.

Having said that, I doubt CB had his car/van parked that far away...so it’s probably a totally innocent man who never even knew he’d been put in the frame



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Offline kizzy

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #250 on: June 30, 2020, 04:23:44 PM »
more of a resemblance to gmcc IMO

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #251 on: June 30, 2020, 05:14:20 PM »


I don’t know why you’re even discussing the Smith family: Martin Smith said YEARS ago that he must have been mistaken.

Interestingly, when he said he watched the news and saw Gerry McCann walking down the steps of the aircraft & had a sudden “flashback”, his wife refused blatantly refused to agree with him and told the police so, too. So she didn’t “see” what MS thought he saw.

Furthermore, he and his family had arrived in Portugal from Ireland that day and had spent a good few hours in a bar drinking. How much he’d drunk isn’t known, but he must have downed quite a few in those good few hours.  But given his door-to-door journey time, and how tired he probably was on top of all his booze, it’s surprising he took in so much detail — and in the dark too...

The two photo-fits he and his family gave are quite different, too...which begs the question: either he or his family were wrong, or couldn’t see properly...

That flashback he had was probably “false memory syndrome” and whatever man had walked down those aircraft steps would have triggered a wrong impression in his head.

In the event, none of it matters as it’s been irrevocably proved that Gerry was inside the Tapas Bar at the time he claimed he saw this man and child.

But looking again at the photo-fits, and studying them with allowances for error, I can actually see a resemblance to to CB. Same hairline. Same long upper lip.  Chiselled jaw (in one of the two pics), and going by his description of age, build (slim) it resembles CB in some ways.

Having said that, I doubt CB had his car/van parked that far away...so it’s probably a totally innocent man who never even knew he’d been put in the frame

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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #252 on: June 30, 2020, 06:15:16 PM »
Who handled the information received following other appeals when there was no live police investigation?



Exactly what I was thinking!!

Offline jassi

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #253 on: June 30, 2020, 06:24:13 PM »
Who handled the information received following other appeals when there was no live police investigation?



Well don't ask the chap on the right - he obviously hasn't a clue.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Timeline May 3rd
« Reply #254 on: June 30, 2020, 06:47:11 PM »
Gerry McCann may have been at the Tapas table when the alarm was raised, but where's the evidence which confirms that it was raised at 10pm? There's evidence suggesting the alarm was raised earlier.



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