Timeline May 3rd

[Mr Gray]

Absolutely. No-one disputes Smithman. It seems possible (even probable) that this is indeed a person carrying MM away from apartment 5a. SY now agree. CM imo has (quite possibly) missed the early opportunity to publicise this sighting. John, on this forum, has explained why. Yet if it's so easy to prove it's not GM this makes no sense. It's not GM (he has an alibi) so finding out who he was should have been, imo, the central priority.

It seems the prime suspect isn't Smith man and that Smith man played no part

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

It seems the prime suspect isn't Smith man and that Smith man played no part

What's your basis for claiming that?

Here's another independent witness that states the alarm was raised earlier. It's also worth bearing in mind that an employee is likely to have a better idea of the time than a group on holiday eating and drinking. It's also worth pointing out that nothing is lost in translation with this statement:

Arlindo Peleja (Executive Chef at the Ocean Club).

...."He remembers having seen in that esplanade, one table, occupied by three couples, without children, and all of them adults. On the esplanade, he encountered no one else.
. A few minutes later, when it was around 21H20, he heard some clamour, which made him leave toward the restaurant, a few meters away, and was then informed that a child had disappeared. Given the importance of this, believed that he should be in the surroundings. At that moment, he did not leave the area of the restaurant, and did not have the opportunity to check if the vehicle mentioned before was situated in the same location;
. Later, at around 21:40, he left the restaurant passing through the same esplanade where moments before, he had seen the same table occupied by the three couples, empty, who had left in the meanwhile various items, principally clothing. He was told by his colleagues that the child who had disappeared was a child of one of those couples...."

[Mr Gray]

What's your basis for claiming that?

Here's another independent witness that states the alarm was raised earlier. It's also worth bearing in mind that an employee is likely to have a better idea of the time than a group on holiday eating and drinking. It's also worth pointing out that nothing is lost in translation with this statement:

Arlindo Peleja (Executive Chef at the Ocean Club).

...."He remembers having seen in that esplanade, one table, occupied by three couples, without children, and all of them adults. On the esplanade, he encountered no one else.
. A few minutes later, when it was around 21H20, he heard some clamour, which made him leave toward the restaurant, a few meters away, and was then informed that a child had disappeared. Given the importance of this, believed that he should be in the surroundings. At that moment, he did not leave the area of the restaurant, and did not have the opportunity to check if the vehicle mentioned before was situated in the same location;
. Later, at around 21:40, he left the restaurant passing through the same esplanade where moments before, he had seen the same table occupied by the three couples, empty, who had left in the meanwhile various items, principally clothing. He was told by his colleagues that the child who had disappeared was a child of one of those couples...."

The prime suspect is now Breukner...and he isn't Smith man

[Brietta]

Absolutely. No-one disputes Smithman. It seems possible (even probable) that this is indeed a person carrying MM away from apartment 5a. SY now agree. CM imo has (quite possibly) missed the early opportunity to publicise this sighting. John, on this forum, has explained why. Yet if it's so easy to prove it's not GM this makes no sense. It's not GM (he has an alibi) so finding out who he was should have been, imo, the central priority.

The central priority was the responsibility of Goncalo Amaral and the Judicial Police; but like so much else in Madeleine's case either Amaral renaged on that or the PJ decided after interviewing the Smiths it was not their central priority.

Extraordinarily, again you still insist on placing all lack of action re Smithman on Clarence Mitchell which seems to be quite an obsession with you and is nonsensical.

Check your timeline.
Clarence Mitchell would not have been in a position to know anything about Smithman ... he was not even in Luz or anywhere near it in the early days.
Indeed no-one knew anything about Smithman for a fortnight after the event not even the Judicial Police whose sole responsibility it was to carry out all the diligences you have assigned to to Clarence Mitchell.

The Portuguese have not publicised Smithman.
Just as a matter of interest ... did he ever make an appearance on the PJ website?

From madeleine written by Kate McCann ...
"It was only through having the police files that we learned of several key sightings of a suspicious individual or individuals near our apartment in the days and hours around Madeleine’s abduction.
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In addition to the man and child seen by Jane Tanner at about 9.15pm on the evening Madeleine was taken, and the similar sighting forty-five minutes later by the family from Ireland,
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The police did not appear to feel that Jane’s sighting in Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva and the man and child reported by the Irish holidaymakers in Rua da Escola Primária were related. They seem to have concluded that these were in all likelihood two different men carrying two different children (if, they implied, these two men actually existed at all)."

[kizzy]

The prime suspect is now Breukner...and he isn't Smith man

Just another suspect you mean or IYO

How many have there been up to now who just fizzle as old news till the next one?

[Brietta]

Just another suspect you mean or IYO

How many have there been up to now who just fizzle as old news till the next one?

There has been a process of elimination over the years ... that is how police go about finding the perpetrators of crime.

Timelines come and go and are obviously a consideration but the main plank of the investigation appears to be the phone calls made by those with particular profiles such as that of the only suspects made arguidos so that they could lawfully be questioned in 2014.

The Germans have unearthed their prime suspect partly using exactly the same phone data which was available in 2007.

But as Amaral has confirmed ... the police knocked ... but Brueckner wasn't in. 

[Mr Gray]

Just another suspect you mean or IYO

How many have there been up to now who just fizzle as old news till the next one?

Who else is a suspect at the moment..no one...he is the prime suspect...the Germans say they have concrete evidence he killed Maddie...have you not been following the news. Had any police force said that before

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

The prime suspect is now Breukner...and he isn't Smith man

You're missing the point. An employee has made a statement stating that at "around 21:20 he heard some clamour" and that by "21:40" the T9 were no longer in the Tapas Bar.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You're missing the point. An employee has made a statement stating that at "around 21:20 he heard some clamour" and that by "21:40" the T9 were no longer in the Tapas Bar.

Can you make his statement fit with the statement by the waiter who served Oldfield his re-heated steak and also Jez Wilkins statement, ta muchly.

[Holly Goodhead]

Who else is a suspect at the moment..no one...he is the prime suspect...the Germans say they have concrete evidence he killed Maddie...have you not been following the news. Had any police force said that before

HCW is a state prosecutor. Let's see how he fares if his appeals don't turn up what he's hoping for ie incriminating evidence.

[Vertigo Swirl]

HCW is a state prosecutor. Let's see how he fares if his appeals don't turn up what he's hoping for ie incriminating evidence.

What do you expect to happen to him in such an eventuality?

[Holly Goodhead]

Who else is a suspect at the moment..no one...he is the prime suspect...the Germans say they have concrete evidence he killed Maddie...have you not been following the news. Had any police force said that before

The MET refers to a suspect no prime mentioned. 

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

[Holly Goodhead]

What do you expect to happen to him in such an eventuality?

Fired.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Fired.

Then he must be really stupid to put his job on the line over nothing at all.  Is that what you think he’s done?  Risked his career and livlihood on a whim to deceive?

[Mr Gray]

The MET refers to a suspect no prime mentioned. 

“While this male is a suspect we retain an open mind as to his involvement and this remains a missing person inquiry.

How many times have the McCanns been referred to as prime suspects...did you ever object.....he's the only suspect at the moment...and therefore by definition the prime suspect