Were the media wrong to settle defamation actions out of court?

[Robittybob1]

When they were arguidos they were entitled to the protection of the presumption of innocence by the legal system in Portugal. I don't think they were entitled to be presumed innocent by anyone else. They have always enjoyed the right to sue anyone who slanders or defames them, just as we all do.

They will be busy then.

[Mr Gray]

When they were arguidos they were entitled to the protection of the presumption of innocence by the legal system in Portugal. I don't think they were entitled to be presumed innocent by anyone else. They have always enjoyed the right to sue anyone who slanders or defames them, just as we all do.

I think you are wrong...see above cites
Duarte thought they were too...above cite
The SC thought they were not.... because they hadn't been cleared

[Sunny]

The SC thought they were not.... because they hadn't been cleared

Which is the reason that many people across the globe actually doubt what the McCanns say IMO.

[Mr Gray]

Which is the reason that many people across the globe actually doubt what the McCanns say IMO.

Cite for many people across the globe doubt the mccanns

It's a ridiculous statement...cleared of what...they have never been charged...so how can they be cleared

[Sunny]

Do you really want a cite for that Davel. Just look up Madeleine McCann and forum in google and you will find many people who  say that they have questions to answer.

Here is the first page https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=madeleine+mccann+forum&rlz=1C1GGGE_en-gbGB592US612&oq=madeleine+mccann+forum&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j0l2.5250j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Mr Gray]

Do you really want a cite for that Davel. Just look up Madeleine McCann and forum in google and you will find many people who  say that they have questions to answer.

Here is the first page https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=madeleine+mccann+forum&rlz=1C1GGGE_en-gbGB592US612&oq=madeleine+mccann+forum&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j0l2.5250j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Most forums have very few posters...this forum has probably  less than ten active posters....then you said...across the globe...how many countries ...across the globe
Might be best just to admit you are wrong

[G-Unit]

I think you are wrong...see above cites
Duarte thought they were too...above cite
The SC thought they were not.... because they hadn't been cleared

Which cites?

Duarte's arguments were rejected by the Portuguese Appeal Court and by the Supreme Court. (twice)

[G-Unit]

Most forums have very few posters...this forum has probably  less than ten active posters....then you said...across the globe...how many countries ...across the globe
Might be best just to admit you are wrong

Well, the McCanns thought the Portuguese nation doubted them. That's 10 million people if correct.

[Robittybob1]

Which cites?

Duarte's arguments were rejected by the Portuguese Appeal Court and by the Supreme Court. (twice)

Hardly matters  to those who reject the SC judgement.

[Sunny]

Most forums have very few posters...this forum has probably  less than ten active posters....then you said...across the globe...how many countries ...across the globe
Might be best just to admit you are wrong

10 active posters on here you say but how many actively read what is said but don't post? I am also thinking those who post on other forums  particularly US ones where the majority of members are American. Also look at newspaper articles and see how many red ticks some pro mccann posts get.  All these people may not actively join a mccann forum but they still have an opinion on the case as you will agree.

[jassi]

Hardly matters  to those who reject the SC judgement.

Nor does it matter that they reject the findings of the SC as their opinion cannot change anything.

[Mr Gray]

Well, the McCanns thought the Portuguese nation doubted them. That's 10 million people if correct.

That's not a cross the globe

[barrier]

Hardly matters  to those who reject the SC judgement.

They may well reject it,but it can't be overturned.

[G-Unit]

Hardly matters  to those who reject the SC judgement.

Based on their in-depth knowledge of Portuguese law? Or on their pro-McCann convictions? I find it difficult to accept that a Portuguese lawyer understood Portuguese law better than three Supreme Court Judges. She argued, for example, that the archiving dispatch was to all intents and purposes a judgement, which 'cleared' the couple. Even the judge of the first instance knew that it wasn't;

The Judge states that the Final Report is evidence in itself and obviously not a judgement. (I assume they mean the Archiving dispatch which Duarte named the AG final report)

The Judge asks whether the witness is aware the investigation wasn't conclusive?.......The Judge observes that if nothing happened since then, this shows that there's still no conclusion.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2335.0

[Mr Gray]

Based on their in-depth knowledge of Portuguese law? Or on their pro-McCann convictions? I find it difficult to accept that a Portuguese lawyer understood Portuguese law better than three Supreme Court Judges. She argued, for example, that the archiving dispatch was to all intents and purposes a judgement, which 'cleared' the couple. Even the judge of the first instance knew that it wasn't;

The Judge states that the Final Report is evidence in itself and obviously not a judgement. (I assume they mean the Archiving dispatch which Duarte named the AG final report)

The Judge asks whether the witness is aware the investigation wasn't conclusive?.......The Judge observes that if nothing happened since then, this shows that there's still no conclusion.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2335.0

The SC has had two rulings against it in the last 6 months or so it is not always correct... Duarte argued the McCann's were entitled to the presumption of innocence...the SC said no...because they hadn't been cleared..
That was the reason the SC gave...which I find bizarre