Were the media wrong to settle defamation actions out of court?

[Robittybob1]

thatsounds like opinion...not fact...do you have a cite

I took it as opinion.

[G-Unit]

The very fact that the mccanns we're expected to prove their innocence is in breach of the ECHR... And a massive own goal for the SC... They are entitled to be presumed innocent... I've looked at quite a few rulings by the ECHR.... I doubt you are familiar with any

In 2011 Portugal's record at the ECHR was on a par with that of France. Italy was appealed against more times than either of them and Greece twice as many times. Spain was complained about less than the UK. Perhaps the group should have gone to Spain.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jan/27/european-court-human-rights-judgments

[Mr Gray]

In 2011 Portugal's record at the ECHR was on a par with that of France. Italy was appealed against more times than either of them and Greece twice as many times. Spain was complained about less than the UK. Perhaps the group should have gone to Spain.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jan/27/european-court-human-rights-judgments

every case is an individual case

[G-Unit]

every case is an individual case

True, and 97% are rejected.

[Mr Gray]

True, and 97% are rejected.

Do you have a cite for this

[slartibartfast]

Do you have a cite for this

Maybe you should read the cite provided.

[Mr Gray]

Maybe you should read the cite provided.

Gunit has not provided back cite

[slartibartfast]

Gunit has not provided back cite

See #436

[Mr Gray]

Maybe you should read the cite provided.

Simple courtesy would have solved the problem...
Current figures do not tally with that which is going back 50 years...I can't provide a cite at the moment

[Mr Gray]

See #436

I don't see why gunit could not have replied

[Mr Gray]

True, and 97% are rejected.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check-with-polly-curtis/2012/jan/25/european-court-of-human-rights

How many applications are there to the court? And how many are upheld?

The ECtHR annual report (pdf) for 2011 lists for the UK:

The number of applications: 2,766

The number declared inadmissible or struck out: 1,175

Applications referred to government: 68

Applications declared inadmissible: 27

Judgements overall: 21

Judgements resolved by unilateral withdrawal or friendly settlement: 3

Judgement finding at least one violation: 14

Judgements finding no violation: 7





your figures are way out of date...these figures show about 40%

[G-Unit]

I don't see why gunit could not have replied

Sorry, I was busy with other things; breakfast being one of them. 

[Mr Gray]

True, and 97% are rejected.

your stateemnt is false....you are quoting the present...97 does not represent the current rate of refusal

[slartibartfast]

your stateemnt is false....you are quoting the present...97 does not represent the current rate of refusal

The statement is true, based on the cite.

[Sunny]

I think you misunderstand Inadmissable or Struck Out Davel. I think those didn't even get to the ECHR.

From your Cite IMO there were only 21 judgments given by the ECHR from 2,766 applications and of those only 14 found a violation so upheld the complainant.

14 out of 2766 is not 40%