Were the media wrong to settle defamation actions out of court?

[slartibartfast]

2017 figures.

Of 85,951 applications decided it found 908 violations.

About 1% success rate.

https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Facts_Figures_2017_ENG.pdf

[Mr Gray]

we all know it is not easy to mount a succesful ECHR case........but from what I have read the Mccanns have a very strong case...a very strong case

[Sunny]

Perhaps you could go back and amend your original incorrect post Davel, where you made a claim of 40%

[Sunny]

your stateemnt is false....you are quoting the present...97 does not represent the current rate of refusal

Davel could you please change your statement of 40% as it is you who are incorrect. You are quick to ask others to change their posts so please do the same yourself. 

[G-Unit]

we all know it is not easy to mount a succesful ECHR case........but from what I have read the Mccanns have a very strong case...a very strong case

Yes, it's probably a foregone conclusion lol. Some people thought it was a foregone conclusion that the would defeat Amaral when they sued him. Time will tell.

[Mr Gray]

Yes, it's probably a foregone conclusion lol. Some people thought it was a foregone conclusion that the would defeat Amaral when they sued him. Time will tell.

From amaral demeanor ithink he felt he could lose...if I remember he talked about going to the ECHR if he lost

[Sunny]

But Davel, Amaral didn't lose did he, the McCanns lost so IMO his demeanor at that time is irrelevant.  I wonder what the McCanns demeanor is like at present.

[Robittybob1]

Davel could you please change your statement of 40% as it is you who are incorrect. You are quick to ask others to change their posts so please do the same yourself.

Has anyone else checked the figures?

[Sunny]

Davel's claim was because he misread the information he provided in his cite IMO. Others have provided cites and it never looks anywhere near a 40% success rate Robittybob1

[Alice Purjorick]

Has anyone else checked the figures?

Why? do you think they are incorrect?
LBTR[it pays not to have the attention span of a stick insect when reading this and all the associated links  ]

https://fullfact.org/news/does-uk-lose-three-out-four-european-human-rights-cases/
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Guide_ECHR_lawyers_ENG.pdf
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Stats_analysis_2017_ENG.pdf

[misty]

In the UK the person making the allegation has to prove it whereas in Portugal the person allegedly maligned has to prove that they were defamed. Thus why the McCanns lost the libel action against Amaral.

The McCanns have never had to defend any defamation allegation since every newspaper rolled over and paid up. In essence the newspapers would have to have proved their stories were true but to do that they needed to prove the parents guilty.  That was an impossible ask.

How did that apply in the recent award to Murat?

[Robittybob1]

Why? do you think they are incorrect?
LBTR[it pays not to have the attention span of a stick insect when reading this and all the associated links  ]

https://fullfact.org/news/does-uk-lose-three-out-four-european-human-rights-cases/
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Guide_ECHR_lawyers_ENG.pdf
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Stats_analysis_2017_ENG.pdf

I don't trust my arithmetic.  Has Davel accepted he made an error? 

[Alice Purjorick]

I don't trust my arithmetic.  Has Davel accepted he made an error?

Does that make a difference then?

[Alice Purjorick]

I don't trust my arithmetic.  Has Davel accepted he made an error?

Does that make a difference then?

[Robittybob1]

Does that make a difference then?

I'm not bothering looking at the maths unless enough were to claim Davel was wrong