Were the media wrong to settle defamation actions out of court?

[slartibartfast]

I'm not bothering looking at the maths unless enough were to claim Davel was wrong

Rob, the maths says Davel got it wrong. I know in the past some organisations have had votes of the value of pi, whatever they voted for did not effect the actual value.

[Robittybob1]

Rob, the maths says Davel got it wrong. I know in the past some organisations have had votes of the value of pi, whatever they voted for did not effect the actual value.

Fair enough I may be obliged to have a look at it myself then.

[slartibartfast]

Fair enough I may be obliged to have a look at it myself then.

I provided a cite that current finding of violations was running around the 1% of total case mark.

[Alice Purjorick]

I'm not bothering looking at the maths unless enough were to claim Davel was wrong

If you can't be arsed to read the cites given that puts the kibosh on the cites idea then.
As you were back on yer 'eads.

[Sunny]

The cite that Davel gave himself was pretty explicit (although he misunderstood it himself). In over 2600 cases attempted to be admitted to the ECHR in 2011 from the UK only 14 were successful. That is not 40% in anyone,s book but I don't see him backing down anytime soon.

[Brietta]

The cite that Davel gave himself was pretty explicit (although he misunderstood it himself). In over 2600 cases attempted to be admitted to the ECHR in 2011 from the UK only 14 were successful. That is not 40% in anyone,s book but I don't see him backing down anytime soon.

I'm not too bothered with the mathematics of the thing as it will all come out in the wash as to whether or not the McCann case is heard in Europe ... and I have every confidence it meets the criteria for so doing.

But a thought occurs regarding the country of origin (as you say the UK).  Isn't the McCann case Portuguese?  and as we have seen on the forum of late, the ECHR is currently cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements.

[ShiningInLuz]

I'm not too bothered with the mathematics of the thing as it will all come out in the wash as to whether or not the McCann case is heard in Europe ... and I have every confidence it meets the criteria for so doing.

But a thought occurs regarding the country of origin (as you say the UK).  Isn't the McCann case Portuguese?  and as we have seen on the forum of late, the ECHR is currently cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements.

"the ECHR is currently cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements."  Is it?  News to me.   

[faithlilly]

I'm not too bothered with the mathematics of the thing as it will all come out in the wash as to whether or not the McCann case is heard in Europe ... and I have every confidence it meets the criteria for so doing.

But a thought occurs regarding the country of origin (as you say the UK).  Isn't the McCann case Portuguese?  and as we have seen on the forum of late, the ECHR is currently cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements.

Do you have a cite for ‘cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements’ ?

[Brietta]

"the ECHR is currently cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements."  Is it?  News to me.   

News to me too ... until I read recent ECHR judgements cited on the forum.  Sometimes the forum is very informative re current affairs.  Particularly that posted by Misty regarding the discontent in Portugal amongst Portuguese citizens  regarding human rights as epitomised by recent judgements of the courts.

[Brietta]

Do you have a cite for ‘cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements’ ?

The descriptive words are my very own so unless you wish me to cite myself ... no I do not have one.  But if you care to keep apace with the ongoing discussion you will note the cites provided by others of recent ECHR judgements relating to the Portuguese State which have helped to form my opinion.

[faithlilly]

News to me too ... until I read recent ECHR judgements cited on the forum.  Sometimes the forum is very informative re current affairs.  Particularly that posted by Misty regarding the discontent in Portugal amongst Portuguese citizens  regarding human rights as epitomised by recent judgements of the courts.

Have you read the Guardian recently ? How many vulnerable, disabled people have had their human rights disregarded in the quest by our government to follow a callous ideology.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/government-accused-of-kicking-un-concerns-about-its-austerity-policy-into-the-long-grass-a7569761.html

Before you start kicking Portugal’s record on human rights you should be looking somewhat nearer to home.

[Mr Gray]

"the ECHR is currently cutting a swathe through Portuguese judgements."  Is it?  News to me.   

then you obviously have not kept up to date with current ECHR rulings

[G-Unit]

2017 applications made to the ECHR

152 against Portugal.
130 against the UK
141 against Switzerland
321 against Belgium
20 against Denmark
14 against Finland
359 against France.
7,747 against Russia.

Portugal. like the UK, seems to be in the middle to low range.
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Stats_analysis_2017_ENG.pdf

[Brietta]

2017 applications made to the ECHR

152 against Portugal.
130 against the UK
141 against Switzerland
321 against Belgium
20 against Denmark
14 against Finland
359 against France.
7,747 against Russia.

Portugal. like the UK, seems to be in the middle to low range.
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Stats_analysis_2017_ENG.pdf

I believe that at one time the UK was a front runner in these stakes ... but in this instance the focus is on the McCann action which I get the impression that some hope not to even reach first base.

I think it will though ... and I think it will be a home run.

[ShiningInLuz]

then you obviously have not kept up to date with current ECHR rulings

As neither you nor Brietta are willing to provide evidence to support this claim, I am filing it in my waste basket.