Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?

[G-Unit]

Forum rules require people to back up their statements. If they refuse or the cite they provide isn't adequate then they haven't complied with the rule.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Forum rules require people to back up their statements. If they refuse or the cite they provide isn't adequate then they haven't complied with the rule.

Who judges if the cite is inadequate?  Isn't there a forum rule that says no one is obliged to answer any post, or to be constantly harassed?  If you think Davel hasn't provided a cite and it's that important to you (two weeks after what amounted to a fairly throwaway comment that has been seized on and blown up out of all proportion).

[Mr Gray]

I mean what really really happened.

You are suggesting Kate is lying.....with no evidence to support you statement

[jassi]

Who judges if the cite is inadequate? Isn't there a forum rule that says no one is obliged to answer any post, or to be constantly harassed?  If you think Davel hasn't provided a cite and it's that important to you (two weeks after what amounted to a fairly throwaway comment that has been seized on and blown up out of all proportion).

A good point. Many's the time on here I've seen someone ask for a cite and when one is provided, dismiss it out of hand with some excuse or another.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Perhaps it's time to knock this ridiculous demand for cites on the head.  If you're having a conversation with someone in the pub you wouldn't keep asking for cites, and really that's all this forum is - a chat forum, not a courtroom. 

[Robittybob1]

You are suggesting Kate is lying.....with no evidence to support you statement

There is a difference between telling the truth and telling what really really happened.

[Mr Gray]

There is a difference between telling the truth and telling what really really happened.

The truth is what happened...why are they different..iyo

[John]

A short reminder to all posters to remain on topic and to respect other members point of view which might not necessarily coincide with your own. Please keep comments relevant and amicable. TY

[jassi]

Perhaps it's time to knock this ridiculous demand for cites on the head.  If you're having a conversation with someone in the pub you wouldn't keep asking for cites, and really that's all this forum is - a chat forum, not a courtroom.

Trouble is that some will claim the most outrageous things as true and cites are a way of holding them in check.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Trouble is that some will claim the most outrageous things as true and cites are a way of holding them in check.

Oh dear, so what if they do?  It’s almost like you care!

[G-Unit]

Perhaps it's time to knock this ridiculous demand for cites on the head.  If you're having a conversation with someone in the pub you wouldn't keep asking for cites, and really that's all this forum is - a chat forum, not a courtroom.

There are facts and there are opinions. People tend to present their opinions as facts. They also tend to embellish the facts so they support their opinions. That's why cites are necessary so everyone can see which are which.

[John]

Perhaps it's time to knock this ridiculous demand for cites on the head.  If you're having a conversation with someone in the pub you wouldn't keep asking for cites, and really that's all this forum is - a chat forum, not a courtroom.

At the end of the day posters make claims and those claims are either true or false.  As this forum is fact based, the only feasible way that truth can be distinguished from falsehoods is if cites are provided. I agree that this is not foolproof but it is all that is available to us in most cases. What we will always weed out however are false malicious claims which are only posted to cause offence.

Hope this helps all concerned.


ETA  ...what we don't need however is goading when cites are not forthcoming.

[Vertigo Swirl]

At the end of the day posters make claims and those claims are either true or false.  As this forum is fact based, the only feasible way that truth can be distinguished from falsehoods is if cites are provided. I agree that this is not foolproof but it is all that is available to us in most cases. What we will always weed out however are false malicious claims which are only posted to cause offence.

Hope this helps all concerned.

Perhaps you could advise what to do in a situation where a cite or cites are provided but they don’t meet with the approval of those doing the demanding, as has been the case for the last two weeks, with Davel being constantly badgered by multiple forum members on multiple threads? 

[jassi]

Oh dear, so what if they do?  It’s almost like you care!

You may be happy for falsehoods to be passed off, unchallenged, as fact, but I'm not.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There are facts and there are opinions. People tend to present their opinions as facts. They also tend to embellish the facts so they support their opinions. That's why cites are necessary so everyone can see which are which.

If we just accepted that we are mostly all anonymous forum members  and that what we write is mostly opinion, and therefore should always be taken with a pinch of salt, and not too seriously in any case this would remove most of the po-faced demands for cites which are usually asked for in an attempt to point score anyway.