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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #285 on: July 27, 2018, 08:40:49 PM »
You seem to be saying "what they say is what they think".  They may actually say something but think something else.  There is always going to be a degree of uncertainty.
Even if someone says "I think such and such" doesn't mean they are telling the truth either.

I am providing a cite to support my statement...a very clear cite...but it obviously isn't enough...so cites are basically useless

Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #286 on: July 27, 2018, 08:45:21 PM »
I've answered this already...the out of court settlement may have been enforced by a court order

Hoe does someone apply for this court order then?

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #287 on: July 27, 2018, 08:49:43 PM »
Hoe does someone apply for this court order then?

The answer is obvious...let's see Angelo's cite first...it seems the necessity to provide a cite is only important if the poster is a supporter

Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #288 on: July 27, 2018, 09:25:55 PM »
The answer is obvious...let's see Angelo's cite first...it seems the necessity to provide a cite is only important if the poster is a supporter

This thread exists solely because of your stated opinion that Carter-Ruck worked on the McCanns v Express Newspapers pro bono. Therefore my only interest is in discovering what facts you are basing your opinion on.

How did they get a judge and court time? How does that happen?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #289 on: July 28, 2018, 07:23:11 AM »
This thread exists solely because of your stated opinion that Carter-Ruck worked on the McCanns v Express Newspapers pro bono. Therefore my only interest is in discovering what facts you are basing your opinion on.

How did they get a judge and court time? How does that happen?

I think davel is confused.  CR dont do anything for free, they knew when they took on the McCanns that they would get their fee one way or another.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #290 on: July 28, 2018, 07:39:44 AM »
I think davel is confused.  CR dont do anything for free, they knew when they took on the McCanns that they would get their fee one way or another.

You would almost think it was an attempt to paint the McCanns as being so virtuous that even CR would support them for free.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #291 on: July 28, 2018, 08:15:10 AM »
You would almost think it was an attempt to paint the McCanns as being so virtuous that even CR would support them for free.

Let's face it, lots of people and many corporations have made a few quid out of Maddie's story and that is the bit I find utterly despicable.
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Offline barrier

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #292 on: July 28, 2018, 08:21:57 AM »
Let's face it, lots of people and many corporations have made a few quid out of Maddie's story and that is the bit I find utterly despicable.

Including a best seller.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #293 on: July 28, 2018, 08:27:46 AM »
I think davel is confused.  CR dont do anything for free, they knew when they took on the McCanns that they would get their fee one way or another.

Then it is you who is confused...I've constantly said CR were paid by the newspapers

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #294 on: July 28, 2018, 08:28:27 AM »
Including a best seller.
It happens
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #295 on: July 28, 2018, 08:29:49 AM »
You would almost think it was an attempt to paint the McCanns as being so virtuous that even CR would support them for free.

No .....the McCann's had such a solid case that CR were prepared to represent them on a no win..no fee basis...but as the express capitulated...the CFA was not necessary

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #296 on: July 28, 2018, 08:34:32 AM »
Could we have a cite to support your claim...the judge listened to both sides....then asked them to go away and agree terms between themselves...

Imo...the express capitulated before the hearing and the deal was already done

Still no cite from Angelo....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #297 on: July 28, 2018, 08:41:10 AM »
No .....the McCann's had such a solid case that CR were prepared to represent them on a no win..no fee basis...but as the express capitulated...the CFA was not necessary

But they didn’t work for free or pro bono.

 You know the old saying Davel....when you have an omelette on your face admit defeat.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #298 on: July 28, 2018, 08:57:07 AM »
But they didn’t work for free or pro bono.

 You know the old saying Davel....when you have an omelette on your face admit defeat.

the did some initial work pro bono...imo.....as  have alraedy explained....other fees were recovered from the newspaers...as i have alraedy explained

Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #299 on: July 28, 2018, 09:27:56 AM »
No .....the McCann's had such a solid case that CR were prepared to represent them on a no win..no fee basis...but as the express capitulated...the CFA was not necessary

A CFA is necessary before a legal firm begin work in order to ensure they receive payment. In my opinion Gerry was confusing a CFA with an ATE insurance, which is normally put in place at the same time as a CFA.

The McCanns consulted Carter-Ruck in January 2008. It was agreed that CR would take the case on a CFA basis. That CFA would have been in place before any action was taken at all. It took two months of wrangling before Express Newspapers capitulated, by which time an application had been made to the court. That's why both parties attended the court in March.

A similar complaint was made against Associated Newspapers. They also paid compensation and printed an apology, but never attended court. That means that no application to the court was made regarding that complaint. It has never been claimed that the money paid by them was donated to the Fund.
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