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Offline Brietta

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #465 on: July 30, 2018, 11:42:37 AM »
Two claims have been made.

1. Carter-Ruck worked pro bono for the McCanns in their action against Express Newspapers.
2. A writ against Express Newspapers was not the reason a High Court hearing was arranged.

Number 1 has, in my opinion, been shown to be false.
Number 2 has not been explained. How did the parties end up in the High Court if no writ was issued?

Two out-of-court settlements were reached in 2008. One was with Express newspapers and the other was with Associated Press. One involved an appearance at the High Court and the other didn't. Why?

The salient point is the insinuation you have made regarding money ... and ... the Fund.

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A similar complaint was made against Associated Newspapers. They also paid compensation and printed an apology, but never attended court. That means that no application to the court was made regarding that complaint. It has never been claimed that the money paid by them was donated to the Fund.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475633#msg475633

I have posted links showing that all damages received by Kate, Gerry and their friends was paid into Madeleine's Fund refuting your insinuation of otherwise which in my opinion is totally misguided.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #466 on: July 30, 2018, 11:45:25 AM »
Please explain the connection between unfounded innuendo and whether CR worked pro bono ?

Whether CR worked pro bono or were paid handsomely the McCanns would have paid nothing personally as either the fund or a wealthy benefactor would have picked up the tab.

Unsubstantiated comment is against forum protocols at all times ... not only when it suits.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #467 on: July 30, 2018, 11:57:40 AM »
The salient point is the insinuation you have made regarding money ... and ... the Fund.

Snip
A similar complaint was made against Associated Newspapers. They also paid compensation and printed an apology, but never attended court. That means that no application to the court was made regarding that complaint. It has never been claimed that the money paid by them was donated to the Fund.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475633#msg475633

I have posted links showing that all damages received by Kate, Gerry and their friends was paid into Madeleine's Fund refuting your insinuation of otherwise which in my opinion is totally misguided.

You have posted links which refer to Murat's claims, the Tapas seven claims and the McCann's claim against Express Newspapers. Could you direct me to your link explaining the settlement with Associated Newspapers?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #468 on: July 30, 2018, 12:03:39 PM »
Two claims have been made.

1. Carter-Ruck worked pro bono for the McCanns in their action against Express Newspapers.
2. A writ against Express Newspapers was not the reason a High Court hearing was arranged.

Number 1 has, in my opinion, been shown to be false.
Number 2 has not been explained. How did the parties end up in the High Court if no writ was issued?

Two out-of-court settlements were reached in 2008. One was with Express newspapers and the other was with Associated Press. One involved an appearance at the High Court and the other didn't. Why?
"Tapas 7" win libel payout from papers - ...
https://uk.reuters.com › article
Looks like you are wrong again...

I'm on my phone so links are difficult..I will post it later


At a hearing at London's High Court on Thursday, the two papers admitted the stories were false and issued apologies to Jane Tanner, Russell O'Brien, Fiona Payne, David Payne, Matthew Oldfield, Rachael Oldfield and Dianne Webster
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #469 on: July 30, 2018, 12:06:54 PM »
"Tapas 7" win libel payout from papers - ...
https://uk.reuters.com › article
Looks like you are wrong again...

I'm on my phone so links are difficult..I will post it later

I was referring to the McCanns settlements, not those of their friends.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #470 on: July 30, 2018, 12:09:07 PM »
Unsubstantiated comment is against forum protocols at all times ... not only when it suits.

Like when some posters claimed that Carter ruck worked Pro Bono, Brietta?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #471 on: July 30, 2018, 12:11:26 PM »
You have posted links which refer to Murat's claims, the Tapas seven claims and the McCann's claim against Express Newspapers. Could you direct me to your link explaining the settlement with Associated Newspapers?
Following your original post I asked you if your reference was to action taken by (Carter Ruck on behalf of) the McCann friends http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475637#msg475637

I had taken the bother to check out the accuracy of your insinuation ... it is not to your credit that you did not.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #472 on: July 30, 2018, 12:13:42 PM »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #473 on: July 30, 2018, 12:22:23 PM »
Like when some posters claimed that Carter ruck worked Pro Bono, Brietta?

I've qualified the statement to explain I meant free of charge to the McCann's...I've never said CR were not paid

Offline Sunny

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #474 on: July 30, 2018, 12:25:50 PM »
I've qualified the statement to explain I meant free of charge to the McCann's...I've never said CR were not paid

And you were wrong. You are on ignore I suggest you do not quote me again for the time being or at least until you explain that you now understand what Pro bono is.  Thank you.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #475 on: July 30, 2018, 12:29:54 PM »
And you were wrong. You are on ignore I suggest you do not quote me again for the time being or at least until you explain that you now understand what Pro bono is.  Thank you.

Sorry, Sunny, you are entitled to have who you like on 'ignore' but Davel is entitled to quote whoever he likes as is everyone else if within forum rules.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Sunny

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #476 on: July 30, 2018, 12:31:40 PM »
Sorry, Sunny, you are entitled to have who you like on 'ignore' but Davel is entitled to quote whoever he likes as is everyone else if within forum rules.

OK sorry Brietta. I understand.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #477 on: July 30, 2018, 12:40:38 PM »
Following your original post I asked you if your reference was to action taken by (Carter Ruck on behalf of) the McCann friends http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475637#msg475637

I had taken the bother to check out the accuracy of your insinuation ... it is not to your credit that you did not.

I made it clear in my reply that it was not connected to the claims made by their friends.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9874.msg475644#msg475644
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #478 on: July 30, 2018, 12:43:55 PM »
I was referring to the McCanns settlements, not those of their friends.

Which settlement

Offline G-Unit

Re: Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?
« Reply #479 on: July 30, 2018, 12:44:52 PM »
I've qualified the statement to explain I meant free of charge to the McCann's...I've never said CR were not paid

Pro bono doesn't mean 'free of charge to the client', so you used the wrong legal term. Admit it and we can all shut up.
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