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Offline Brietta

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #765 on: August 09, 2018, 11:15:45 AM »
Don't overlook the possibility of re-evaluation/re- interpretation of existing evidence.

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05.05.2017 21:00 by  Fernanda Cachão  and  Mónica Palma
In the dishwasher were still cups with traces of chocolate milk, which were never analyzed, and which could have served to prove the use of a drug - which would corroborate the hypothesis of accidental death and concealment of cadaver defended by the first coordinator of the investigation .
https://www.sabado.pt/portugal/seguranca/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-de-regresso-a-praia-da-luz-video

Not just milk ... but chocolate milk ... and never mentioned till ten years down the line.  Just goes to show "the truth is out there" or words to that effect!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #766 on: August 09, 2018, 11:49:30 AM »
I'm sure that knowing it was chocolate milk, not just ordinary milk, has advanced the investigation enormously.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #767 on: August 09, 2018, 12:56:17 PM »
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05.05.2017 21:00 by  Fernanda Cachão  and  Mónica Palma
In the dishwasher were still cups with traces of chocolate milk, which were never analyzed, and which could have served to prove the use of a drug - which would corroborate the hypothesis of accidental death and concealment of cadaver defended by the first coordinator of the investigation .
https://www.sabado.pt/portugal/seguranca/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-de-regresso-a-praia-da-luz-video

Not just milk ... but chocolate milk ... and never mentioned till ten years down the line.  Just goes to show "the truth is out there" or words to that effect!
Are you now admitting there were facts recorded but held back from the release file?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #768 on: August 09, 2018, 04:38:17 PM »
Are you now admitting there were facts recorded but held back from the release file?

Some facts are more important that others...
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Offline John

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #769 on: August 09, 2018, 04:44:52 PM »
Are you now admitting there were facts recorded but held back from the release file?

There will be a lot of stuff withheld from the public Rob.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #770 on: August 09, 2018, 05:21:08 PM »
Perhaps the investigating authorities want to wait until they have a cast iron case ?
Such as..?  No forensics, no CCTV, no body, no murder weapon, so....what then?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #771 on: August 09, 2018, 05:34:59 PM »
Don't overlook the possibility of re-evaluation/re- interpretation of existing evidence.
There’s certainly not enough of that to draw any conclusions of the the “case cracked” variety IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #772 on: August 09, 2018, 07:22:38 PM »
There will be a lot of stuff withheld from the public Rob.
I hope Brietta reads this.
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Offline John

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #773 on: August 09, 2018, 07:24:01 PM »
I hope Brietta reads this.

I can assure you that for operational reasons the police keep a lot of stuff secret, it's all part of the game.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #774 on: August 09, 2018, 07:31:40 PM »
I can assure you that for operational reasons the police keep a lot of stuff secret, it's all part of the game.

I assume you're speaking from experience John? Am I also correct to assume that the only evidence presented to the CPS by the UK police is that which they think will secure a conviction?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #775 on: August 09, 2018, 07:57:07 PM »
I can assure you that for operational reasons the police keep a lot of stuff secret, it's all part of the game.
What reason would the PJ have for witholding stuff from the PJ files, which did include statements from the Gaspars, for example?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #776 on: August 09, 2018, 08:19:58 PM »
What reason would the PJ have for witholding stuff from the PJ files, which did include statements from the Gaspars, for example?

The Gasper statements were taken by the UK police, not the PJ.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #777 on: August 09, 2018, 08:24:11 PM »
The Gasper statements were taken by the UK police, not the PJ.
Were they not included in the released PJ files?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline John

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #778 on: August 09, 2018, 08:53:48 PM »
I assume you're speaking from experience John? Am I also correct to assume that the only evidence presented to the CPS by the UK police is that which they think will secure a conviction?

In theory there requires to be full disclosure but that doesn't always happen for many reasons.  Investigations can sometimes develop tunnel vision resulting in miscarriages of justice.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #779 on: August 09, 2018, 08:56:27 PM »
What reason would the PJ have for witholding stuff from the PJ files, which did include statements from the Gaspars, for example?

Many reasons but primarily the need to withhold evidence which could otherwise jeopardise the investigation.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.