Author Topic: Is This True? ""partial footwear mark" found just outside Madeleine's bedroom"?  (Read 22966 times)

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Offline Sunny

so what..he still didnt ave a clue..imo..no one wants a beating like cipriano

No one wants a murdering mother like Cipriano either Davel, she was convicted. I have also read that she was convicted of lying about her "beating" by the way.

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Offline Mr Gray

I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports.

that is opinion not fact and should have a caveat

Offline Robittybob1

Davel:
There is a report by Martin Brunt prior to this one where he tell us what the PJ have on the DNA analysis.  All papers may have this on this day, but not the day before.  Look for the first report on this matter.
This is the report from the day before.  https://youtu.be/u3HQ74Rfdbk
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Offline Robittybob1

that is opinion not fact and should have a caveat
I see it a little different "I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports."

"I agree" suggests it is an opinion.   "what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports"

Means that there is also a likelihood of the opposite, so it isn't a statement of fact other than the opinion which event is the more likely.
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Offline Mr Gray

This is the report from the day before.  https://youtu.be/u3HQ74Rfdbk

he dosnt give the source of his claim for a full match in the hire car

Offline Mr Gray

I see it a little different "I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports."

"I agree" suggests it is an opinion.   "what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports"

Means that there is also a likelihood of the opposite, so it isn't a statement of fact other than the opinion which event is the more likely.

no its stating a fact...it is stating as fact tha it is likely that something happened..in my  opinion is that it is unlikely...we are both stating opinion...we cant both be stating fact

Offline Robittybob1

no its stating a fact...it is stating as fact tha it is likely that something happened..in my  opinion is that it is unlikely...we are both stating opinion...we cant both be stating fact
Exactly you are both stating opinion, as you and I have determined.  End of the matter.
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Offline slartibartfast

You are relying on speculation and your conclusions will be tainted by your belief in that speculation...Harrison tells us exactly what Grime told amaral in a meeting with the PJ..and its just what Grime and Harrison say in the files

Please provide a cite for Harrison tells....
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Offline Mr Gray

Please provide a cite for Harrison tells....

I have done several times and I thnk its highly significant you are ignorant of the fact...let me see if I can find it now

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON-RIGATORY.htm

After the conclusion of the searches, a meeting in the Portimao offices of the PJ took place in the cabinet of Goncalo AMARAL and those present included Guilermino ENCARNACO, an official representative from the Leicestershire police, Martin GRIME and myself. During the meeting were exhibited videos with the details of search activities including the sniffer dogs lead by Martin GRIME. GRIME commented on the actions of the dogs and added that no confirmed evidence or information could be taken from the alerts by the dogs but needed to be confirmed with physical evidence.


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Offline Robittybob1

he dosnt give the source of his claim for a full match in the hire car
His argument is based on what the police are saying to him,  To me it is obvious the source is the police.
https://youtu.be/u3HQ74Rfdbk

The other YouTube Martin talks about the report issued "last night" so I propose on this basis the following video is the second one on the topic of the "interim report". https://youtu.be/m8KYHYzvvqI?t=91
Even though Martin doesn't use the words "interim report".
« Last Edit: August 07, 2018, 12:44:02 AM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline John

I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports.

It will differ in that much more will have been discussed but was so sensitive that it would never be applied to paper.  In any police investigation, the stuff that is committed to paper and the general public gets to read about is never the full story.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

to suggest he knows something of significance is opinion..........not fact

No, it is fact.   Years of experience as a police officer leaves me in no doubt of this.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Robittybob1

No, it is fact.   Years of experience as a police officer leaves me in no doubt of this.
Maybe it is never fully fact but could be a considered opinion, a real upper class opinion.
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Offline John

Maybe it is never fully fact but could be a considered opinion, a real upper class opinion.

Gonçalo Amaral was the coordinator of the investigation from the very outset, everything went through him. He would have been aware of every snippet of information which came into the PJ from various sources. I have no doubt he carefully chose what to reveal and what not to reveal in his books.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Robittybob1

Gonçalo Amaral was the coordinator of the investigation from the very outset, everything went through him. He would have been aware of every snippet of information which came into the PJ from various sources. I have no doubt he carefully chose what to reveal and what not to reveal in his books.
I tend to agree from what I've seen in the NZ case too.
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