Author Topic: Is This True? ""partial footwear mark" found just outside Madeleine's bedroom"?  (Read 22940 times)

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Offline Angelo222

The footprint made in blood outside Madeleine's bedroom story is associated with the Portuguese forensic examination in which the FSS had absolutely no involvement.

So the media were effectively making all that bs up?
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Very simple, the FSS spoke to him via one of his officers who could speak English.  I think you are burying your head in the sand if you believe for a moment that Amaral's knowledge of the case is restricted to the published files.  The police receive information from many sources, some of it confidential, much is never repeated openly let alone publicly.

So amaral received an explanation of the FSS findings secnond hand from an officer whose english we dont know the standard of..it seems more like it to me that amaral heard 15 markers and thought hed hit the jackpot....but that was not the case when it was explained properly. As for amaral having some special knowledge of undisclosed facts...he can only have them if they exist...and we have no evidence taht they do//this claim is being made to criticise the FSS with no real evidence to support it....and to speculate that amaral  may have inside knowledge....maybe involving the mccanns...again with no real evidence to support it...

Offline Mr Gray

So the media were effectively making all that bs up?

if you listed to Brunt on the link you posted.....he was repeating what was in the local media...perhaps it was elements in teh PJ...who were leaking their theories and the press reporting them

Offline Brietta

So the media were effectively making all that bs up?

I think they were.

It is recorded in the forensic report that the crime scene was a wreck with dragons blood everywhere; there were footprints there too; to the uninitiated it could have looked as if a blood bath had taken place.
The forensic team would have run tests and checked out anything that looked like blood.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

So amaral received an explanation of the FSS findings secnond hand from an officer whose english we dont know the standard of..it seems more like it to me that amaral heard 15 markers and thought hed hit the jackpot....but that was not the case when it was explained properly. As for amaral having some special knowledge of undisclosed facts...he can only have them if they exist...and we have no evidence taht they do//this claim is being made to criticise the FSS with no real evidence to support it....and to speculate that amaral  may have inside knowledge....maybe involving the mccanns...again with no real evidence to support it...
one would have to question why he left all the explosive evidence out of his best-selling book...
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline John

So amaral received an explanation of the FSS findings secnond hand from an officer whose english we dont know the standard of..it seems more like it to me that amaral heard 15 markers and thought hed hit the jackpot....but that was not the case when it was explained properly. As for amaral having some special knowledge of undisclosed facts...he can only have them if they exist...and we have no evidence taht they do//this claim is being made to criticise the FSS with no real evidence to support it....and to speculate that amaral  may have inside knowledge....maybe involving the mccanns...again with no real evidence to support it...

Amaral will have many more facts about the Madeleine case than have ever been revealed publicly, I'm afraid that knowledge goes with the territory he was occupying and that is a fact and not an opinion.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2018, 07:00:00 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline slartibartfast

Amaral will have many more facts about the Madeleine case than have ever been revealed publicly, I'm afraid that knowledge goes with the territory he was occupying and that is a fact and not an opinion.

I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports.

you are relying on speculation and your conclusions will be tainted by your belief in that speculation...Harrison tells us exactly what Grime told amaral in a meeting with the PJ..and its just what Grime and Harrison say in the files
« Last Edit: August 06, 2018, 09:48:58 PM by slartibartfast »

Offline Mr Gray

Amaral will have many more facts about the Madeleine case than have ever been revealed publicly, I'm afraid that knowledge goes with the territory he was occupying and that is a fact and not an opinion.
to suggest he knows something of significance is opinion..........not fact

Offline Mr Gray

I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports.

that is opinion...nothing more and should carry a caveat....I think its very unlikeley...based on other stateemnts re cadaver dogs
« Last Edit: August 06, 2018, 07:38:15 PM by Davel »

Offline Mr Gray

I agree, what the FSS and Grime told Amaral is likely different to their legal reports.

Based upon review of the case law below, an alert from a cadaver dog is only
reasonable suspicion. The dog alert must be corroborated by other evidence.
Federal and State Appellate Case Law on Cadaver Dogs:

http://policek9.com/Fleck/Cadaver%20Dogs.pdf

Offline Robittybob1

Again... Do you have the cite  of his exact words.... I think he eas confused as he was about the alerts in Jersey... Didn't Paulo Reiis post here there was no preliminary  report
What would Paulo Reis know?
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Offline Mr Gray

What would Paulo Reis know?

because I believe he was involved in promoting the story with duarte levy

Offline Robittybob1

if you listed to Brunt on the link you posted.....he was repeating what was in the local media...perhaps it was elements in teh PJ...who were leaking their theories and the press reporting them
Are you certain you've got that right?  If it was in the paper we would surely be seeing the newspaper articles by now I would have thought. 
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Offline Mr Gray

Are you certain you've got that right?  If it was in the paper we would surely be seeing the newspaper articles by now I would have thought.

yes I am sure...listen to what brunt says