Is This True? ""partial footwear mark" found just outside Madeleine's bedroom"?

[Robittybob1]

How can you be a mod and perpetuate such myths?

Cite for a bloody shoe print, please.

Don't bother, there wasn't a bloody shoe print.

Cite - this thread is the cite.

[Vertigo Swirl]

How can you be a mod and perpetuate such myths?

Cite for a bloody shoe print, please.

Don't bother, there wasn't a bloody shoe print.

Language Timothy!

[Robittybob1]

"Blood

There is also the evidence of a "partial footwear mark" found just outside Madeleine's bedroom which had traces of blood in it visible to the naked eye, according to a forensics report."

Now is that true?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id21.htm

Why did Gerry McCann Blogs by Pamalam ever report that?

Maybe "just outside the bedroom"  doesn't mean outside the apartment but near the bedroom, but inside the apartment near the bedroom! 

[Brietta]

The problem is not once in 11 years have supporters of the McCanns even attempted to put together a similar database as Pamalam and Nigel. I think it’s bad form to criticise those who make an effort when you and your fellow supporters have made no effort yourselves.

Can you explain why anyone would want to?

In the vast majority of missing person cases no-one sees the value in compiling libraries of erroneous information? Once the truth has been established via investigation or as and when the police release updated information don't the majority move on afresh?

Eleven year old reports of the bloody shoe print have in my opinion long been discounted and therefore bear no relevance to anything pertaining to Madeleine or to the current investigation of her case.

[Brietta]

The claim in these stories seems to be that the FSS leaked to the UK media.

The footprint made in blood outside Madeleine's bedroom story is associated with the Portuguese forensic examination in which the FSS had absolutely no involvement.

[Robittybob1]

"Blood

There is also the evidence of a "partial footwear mark" found just outside Madeleine's bedroom which had traces of blood in it visible to the naked eye, according to a forensics report."

Now is that true?
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id21.htm

Why did Gerry McCann Blogs by Pamalam ever report that?

What I'm struggling with now is the quote I copied and pasted from this page doesn't appear to be there any more!  Did our thread here influence the GMB site?  [Next day I was able to locate paragraph OK]

[Mr Gray]

There were three claims, firstly the Evening Standard claimed that they had seen a FSS report claiming bloodied footprints. Secondly we had the claim by Amaral that the initial results of forensic tests issued to the PJ contained damning evidence but that the subsequent report didn't. Thirdly we had the claims by Brunt relating to the blood and DNA which no doubt relate back to Amaral.

are you claiming the evening standard had seen a FSS report...that has to be untrue

amaral misunderstood the evidence...he thought it was damning...still no cite for a leaked report

brunt was imply repeating what the local media was saying

no real evidence to support any of it

[Brietta]

What I'm struggling with now is the quote I copied and pasted from this page doesn't appear to be there any more!  Did our thread here influence the GMB site?

Nope ... I don't think our thread here on this particular subject inspired anything other than a belly laugh or slight bemusement in the real world.

[John]

What I'm struggling with now is the quote I copied and pasted from this page doesn't appear to be there any more!  Did our thread here influence the GMB site?

It's still there Rob?

[Robittybob1]

are you claiming the evening standard had seen a FSS report...that has to be untrue

amaral misunderstood the evidence...he thought it was damning...still no cite for a leaked report

brunt was imply repeating what the local media was saying

no real evidence to support any of it

From the report "Part of the report shown to this newspaper reveals that officers who examined the McCanns' apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve after Madeleine went missing on May 3 discovered a 'partial footwear mark', believed to be from a size 5 or 6 shoe, just outside the bedroom.

It adds that it 'appeared to have a blood imprint' that was visible to the naked eye.

The FSS results conclude that the footprint matched the pattern of a mark found above the rear bumper of the McCanns' Renault Scenic hire car – a print which Portuguese police apparently believe is consistent with someone lifting a body in or out of the boot."

Was it a faked FSS report?

[Robittybob1]

It's still there Rob?

Well I have hit the link twice and searched for the words and it didn't come up at my end.  OK I'll check again tomorrow.  [Next day I was able to locate paragraph OK]

[Mr Gray]

The original coordinator in the case is on record saying there was so you either believe him or not.

Again... Do you have the cite  of his exact words.... I think he eas confused as he was about the alerts in Jersey... Didn't Paulo Reiis post here there was no preliminary  report

[John]

Again... Do you have the cite  of his exact words.... I think he eas confused as he was about the alerts in Jersey... Didn't Paulo Reiis post here there was no preliminary  report

I don't know why you are making such an issue about this.  Anyone familiar with the case and Amaral's interviews over the last 11 years will know that he claimed that the FSS briefed him initially but then failed to include the information in their final report.  At the end of the day he did say it but only he knows the truth of it. The coordinator or lead detective in any investigation will always be privy to information that others might not necessarily ever know. The police work on a need to know basis, if someone doesn't need to know something then they aren't told.

[Mr Gray]

I don't know why you are making such an issue about this.  Anyone familiar with the case and Amaral's interviews over the last 11 years will know that he claimed that the FSS briefed him initially but then failed to include the information in their final report.  At the end of the day he did say it but only he knows the truth of it. The coordinator or lead detective in any investigation will always be privy to information that others might not necessarily ever know. The police work on a need to know basis, if someone doesn't need to know something then they aren't told.

Amaral does not speak English so could not be briefed by the FSS.... More like amaral was confused imo..... Amaral may well know nothing more than we know because  there is nothing more to know

[John]

Amaral does not speak English so could not be briefed by the FSS.... More like amaral was confused imo..... Amaral may well know nothing more than we know because  there is nothing more to know

Very simple, the FSS spoke to him via one of his officers who could speak English.  I think you are burying your head in the sand if you believe for a moment that Amaral's knowledge of the case is restricted to the published files.  The police receive information from many sources, some of it confidential, much is never repeated openly let alone publicly.