Is this another example of a potentially crucial error by the VRD handler?

[misty]

The key word being 'area'. The clothing alerts were specific because he was given access to specific items of clothing,

Eddie picked up more than one item of clothing at separate times & continued to bark when standing beside other items. Was he alerting to one of them, some of them or all of them & why did Grime opt not to specify the items alerted to on camera?

[Robittybob1]

Eddie picked up more than one item of clothing at separate times & continued to bark when standing beside other items. Was he alerting to one of them, some of them or all of them & why did Grime opt not to specify the items alerted to on camera?

This was a finding on a previous thread IIRC.

[misty]

This was a finding on a previous thread IIRC.

It may well have been but I don't remember it. I am trying to establish if the dog's tool of trade prompts an immediate or delayed response after identifying the strongest source of scent.

[Brietta]

This was a finding on a previous thread IIRC.

It was also noted that all of the items taken to the gymnasium for testing had been in the rented villa when Eddie carried out his check ... and he did not alert to them there.

[Robittybob1]

It was also noted that all of the items taken to the gymnasium for testing had been in the rented villa when Eddie carried out his check ... and he did not alert to them there.

You would wonder how Martin Grime explains that.

[G-Unit]

It may well have been but I don't remember it. I am trying to establish if the dog's tool of trade prompts an immediate or delayed response after identifying the strongest source of scent.

So by your own admission you don't know whether you are observing 'errors' or not.

[Brietta]

So by your own admission you don't know whether you are observing 'errors' or not.

I have never rated the videos in relation to what people on internet fora have made of them.  In my opinion it has been categorically proven that there were alerts in the garage NONE of which were to cadaver odour or directly to Madeleine McCann.

From start to finish Martin Grime has said that dog indications must be substantiated by forensics.  What is not to understand about that?

[G-Unit]

I have never rated the videos in relation to what people on internet fora have made of them.  In my opinion it has been categorically proven that there were alerts in the garage NONE of which were to cadaver odour or directly to Madeleine McCann.

From start to finish Martin Grime has said that dog indications must be substantiated by forensics.  What is not to understand about that?

Despite what Grime said, some people are still examining those videos in minute detail with the aim of discrediting Grime. That suggests to me that they aren't convinced that the alerts can be dismissed.

[Mr Gray]

Despite what Grime said, some people are still examining those videos in minute detail with the aim of discrediting Grime. That suggests to me that they aren't convinced that the alerts can be dismissed.

Again I disagree.....I'm convinced the alerts have no evidential value and no inference can be drawn from them.... Basically useless... Imo

[carlymichelle]

Despite what Grime said, some people are still examining those videos in minute detail with the aim of discrediting Grime. That suggests to me that they aren't convinced that the alerts can be dismissed.

   its been  11 years they are  still in denial about it IMO

[Mr Gray]

  its been  11 years they are  still in denial about it IMO

I think it's the sceptics who are clearly in denial Re the alerts

None more so than amaral

[G-Unit]

Again I disagree.....I'm convinced the alerts have no evidential value and no inference can be drawn from them.... Basically useless... Imo

You're not one of those poring over videos and trying to highlight 'errors' by Grime though, are you?

[Mr Gray]

You're not one of those poring over videos and trying to highlight 'errors' by Grime though, are you?

You already know the, answer to that... But I see nothing wrong with posters trying to establish the truth... Do you

It could be said you have pored over the files trying to discredit the McCanns

[G-Unit]

  its been  11 years they are  still in denial about it IMO

It seems that it's not enough to be told that the alerts aren't evidence. They seem to think it's important to go a step further and try to prove that the alerts weren't 'real' alerts anyway.

[carlymichelle]

i  always  think eddie and keela  were   right  dogs can smell better then humans hence why they use them in police and airports etc