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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2018, 12:38:22 PM »
It was empty at the time of the inspection so it would have been closed until the PJ turned up I'd guess.

As far ad I know it had been let out

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2018, 12:44:33 PM »
As far ad I know it had been let out
For short periods of time.  over the last 3 months. May, June, July.  I would wonder how much air flow had occurred during that time period.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2018, 12:45:57 PM »
For short periods of time.  over the last 3 months. May, June, July.  I would wonder how much air flow had occurred during that time period.
I can't belive remnant  scent would last for 3 months in a flower bed... Open to all the elements.... As, grime seems to think
« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 12:50:36 PM by Davel »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2018, 12:51:44 PM »
For short periods of time.  over the last 3 months. May, June, July.  I would wonder how much air flow had occurred during that time period.

It does show grime was wrong to consider it a closed environment

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2018, 12:54:10 PM »
I can't belive remnant  scent would last for 3 months in a flowe bed... Open to al the elements.... As, grime seems to think
I'd have to refresh as to what he did say, but it definitely wasn't a strong signal IIRC.

in his report this is all he says about that:
"The EVRD alerted in the:
Rear bedroom of the apartment in the immediate right hand corner by
the door.
Living room, behind sofa.
Veranda outside parent's bedroom.
Garden area directly under veranda."  So that is 4 alerts at 5A according to this.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2018, 12:58:17 PM »
I'd have to refresh as to what he did say, but it definitely wasn't a strong signal IIRC.

in his report this is all he says about that:
"The EVRD alerted in the:
Rear bedroom of the apartment in the immediate right hand corner by
the door.
Living room, behind sofa.
Veranda outside parent's bedroom.
Garden area directly under veranda."  So that is 4 alerts at 5A according to this.

Grime says there's no differentiation between a strong or weak alert

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2018, 01:04:12 PM »
Grime says there's no differentiation between a strong or weak alert
I'd be surprised.  "But strong indication and I would say its positive for things that he is trained to find, which will be part of a separate debrief."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Where was the cite about "no differentiation between a strong or weak alert"?

also in his rogatory interview he said: "EVRD gives an alert by means of a vocal bark. The variations in the vocal alert can be explained by many reasons such as 'thirst' or 'lack of air due to effort'. Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. "
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2018, 01:14:28 PM »
I'd be surprised.  "But strong indication and I would say its positive for things that he is trained to find, which will be part of a separate debrief."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Where was the cite about "no differentiation between a strong or weak alert"?

also in his rogatory interview he said: "EVRD gives an alert by means of a vocal bark. The variations in the vocal alert can be explained by many reasons such as 'thirst' or 'lack of air due to effort'. Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. "


'Based upon the dogs' behaviour, is it possible to distinguish between a strong signal and a weak signal'.
The dogs' passive CSI alert provides an indication as per their training and does not vary

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2018, 01:17:22 PM »

'Based upon the dogs' behaviour, is it possible to distinguish between a strong signal and a weak signal'.
The dogs' passive CSI alert provides an indication as per their training and does not vary
I read that too but he is describing Keela there not Eddie.  Keels is the CSI dog.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2018, 01:27:35 PM »
I read that too but he is describing Keela there not Eddie.  Keels is the CSI dog.

The position  of the apostrophe  would say he's talking about both dogs

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Did Martin Grime get his physics right?
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2018, 01:30:24 PM »
The position  of the apostrophe  would say he's talking about both dogs
I don't agree as only Keela is the CSI dog. and only Keela gives a passive alert.
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