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Offline jassi

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2018, 08:46:53 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 08:45:14 PM
Its been a while since the SC decision but didn't the judges try and make out the information in Amarals book was already public before his book was published but according to those dates (which I call clues ) show the book preceded the release a full 8 months. Surely that is a mistake.

Doesn't matter. the Supreme Court word is final.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2018, 08:52:20 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 16, 2018, 08:46:53 PM
Doesn't matter. the Supreme Court word is final.
Even if what they claim was blatantly wrong?  Maybe it is still final, but it shows everyone what sort of beast we are dealing with doesn't it.
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Offline barrier

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2018, 08:57:42 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Even if what they claim was blatantly wrong?  Maybe it is still final, but it shows everyone what sort of beast we are dealing with doesn't it.


"We" are not dealing with anything Rob.
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Offline jassi

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2018, 08:58:18 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Even if what they claim was blatantly wrong? Maybe it is still final, but it shows everyone what sort of beast we are dealing with doesn't it.

No good crying over spilled milk. Move on.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2018, 09:01:21 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 16, 2018, 08:58:18 PM
No good crying over spilled milk. Move on.
Don't you fight for justice and honesty etc. Those good values?  I'm no angel but even I can see the issue here.
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Offline jassi

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2018, 09:02:51 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 09:01:21 PM
Don't you fight for justice and honesty etc. Those good values?  I'm no angel but even I can see the issue here.

Who do you suggest I should fight - and how?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #66 on: August 16, 2018, 09:03:03 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 16, 2018, 08:46:53 PM
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Doesn't matter. the Supreme Court word is final.

It isn't final.... They can be corrected and potentially  humiliated
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2018, 09:04:44 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 08:35:15 PM
Is this when the file was released as given by this clue?

 "ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF
OFFICIAL INQUIRY FILES and DOCUMENTS

This information belongs to the Ministerio Publico in Portimao, Portugal.
It was released to the public on 4 August 2008 in accordance with Portuguese Law

So when did Amarals book first get published?
Is this a correct clue "Published July 2008 by Guerra e Paz (first published January 1st 2008)"
and case archived "When was the case archived? 21st July 2008"

That puts a big stick in any SC contention that the information in the case was made public before the book came out.

24th July 2008.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2018, 09:05:26 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 08:52:20 PM
Even if what they claim was blatantly wrong?  Maybe it is still final, but it shows everyone what sort of beast we are dealing with doesn't it.

I think you need to check your facts. Amaral's book was published three days after the case was archived.

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Offline barrier

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2018, 09:05:54 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 08:35:15 PM
Is this when the file was released as given by this clue?

 "ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF
OFFICIAL INQUIRY FILES and DOCUMENTS

This information belongs to the Ministerio Publico in Portimao, Portugal.
It was released to the public on 4 August 2008 in accordance with Portuguese Law

So when did Amarals book first get published?
Is this a correct clue "Published July 2008 by Guerra e Paz (first published January 1st 2008)"
and case archived "When was the case archived? 21st July 2008"

That puts a big stick in any SC contention that the information in the case was made public before the book came out.


According to this Rob it was after the case was archived, but a big caveat needs to be added, its the s..m.

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Mr Amaral released the book three days after the case was closed in 2008.
He later took part in a documentary for Portuguese television in which he claimed that Madeleine was dead, there had been no abduction and the McCanns had hidden her body.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2788143/top-cop-who-accused-madeleine-mccanns-parents-of-covering-up-her-death-is-planning-to-write-another-book-after-winning-libel-appeal/
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Offline barrier

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #70 on: August 16, 2018, 09:09:43 PM »
Found another confirmation it was 24/07/2008.

Availability: Pre-launch: available to be dispatched from 24 of July 2008

https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/07/truth-of-lie-release-of-gonalo-amarals.html
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #71 on: August 16, 2018, 09:14:07 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 16, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
It isn't final.... They can be corrected and potentially  humiliated
I fear getting my hopes up.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2018, 09:14:41 PM »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #73 on: August 16, 2018, 09:16:24 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 09:14:07 PM
I fear getting my hopes up.

Unfortunately  it will take a long time... But unlike some on here I've looked at quite a few past cases to get a feel for the, way the ECHR rule on defamation and imo the McCann's have a very strong case
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Offline jassi

Re: What exactly are the repercussions of 'not being cleared' ?
« Reply #74 on: August 16, 2018, 09:17:04 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on August 16, 2018, 09:14:07 PM
I fear getting my hopes up.

Don't bother - he's flogging a dead horse.
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