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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #165 on: August 20, 2018, 07:53:05 AM »
How do you know they ferreted out people’s personal details?  I was under the impression the dossier was just a bunch of rather troubling posts and tweets  off the internet by anonymous usernames..

It seems Brunt admitted to finding out who she was, so I was mistaken. It still doesn't make what any of them did justifiable in my opinion.
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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #166 on: August 20, 2018, 07:56:31 AM »
It seems Brunt admitted to finding out who she was, so I was mistaken. It still doesn't make what any of them did justifiable in my opinion.

By them do you mean the people who spent their time posting hate, vitriol and intimidating posts about the family of a missing child?
Agreed, completely unjustifiable.IMO
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #167 on: August 20, 2018, 08:01:37 AM »
It seems Brunt admitted to finding out who she was, so I was mistaken. It still doesn't make what any of them did justifiable in my opinion.
Why not?  Why has sending your concerns about internet trolls to the media something to be frowned on? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #168 on: August 20, 2018, 08:15:21 AM »
Why not?  Why has sending your concerns about internet trolls to the media something to be frowned on?

The term 'internet trolls' has been used to describe such a wide range of behaviour that it's meaningless in my opinion. If people think others are breaking the law we have a process to deal with it. The media isn't part of that process.
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #169 on: August 20, 2018, 08:19:46 AM »
The term 'internet trolls' has been used to describe such a wide range of behaviour that it's meaningless in my opinion. If people think others are breaking the law we have a process to deal with it. The media isn't part of that process.

i personally have  thought the mcann supporters were/are too personally involved with kate and gerrys welfare   maddie is oftern forgotten as are the twins their  welfare was not  considered  on that  holiday IMHO

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #170 on: August 20, 2018, 08:23:18 AM »
The term 'internet trolls' has been used to describe such a wide range of behaviour that it's meaningless in my opinion. If people think others are breaking the law we have a process to deal with it. The media isn't part of that process.
As I pointed out before (which you ignored) the media has often been part of the process, not least the Times pursuing the issue of child sex grooming gangs for example.  What laws should be instigated to protect people like Brenda Leyland?  No response necessary, that is a rhetorical question.
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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #171 on: August 20, 2018, 08:25:29 AM »
The term 'internet trolls' has been used to describe such a wide range of behaviour that it's meaningless in my opinion. If people think others are breaking the law we have a process to deal with it. The media isn't part of that process.

So no free speech then?
No right to highlight the appalling behaviour of some trolls.
It was the media who outed Brenda and it was the media who made her the national news.

The media are often contacted when there is an issue which is causing concern.
Badly run hospitals, schools are often brought to the attention of the media by concerned individuals.
Only by highlighting the appalling behaviour of some on social media will any change be made to the completely ineffectual  guidelines.

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #172 on: August 20, 2018, 08:29:22 AM »
i personally have  thought the mcann supporters were/are too personally involved with kate and gerrys welfare   maddie is oftern forgotten as are the twins their  welfare was not  considered  on that  holiday IMHO


That old chestnut trotted out again. I'm not personally involved with the McCanns,  never met them, don't know them, never been in contact.
I know you don't read my posts  8)><( but I'm just stating the above for the benefit of anyone else who has the same opinion as you.
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Offline Lace

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #173 on: August 20, 2018, 08:35:48 AM »
I remember reading an article about a boy who posted that he was going to kill,   he went on to kill,  the people who read his posts wished they had alerted the police to what he was posting,  but alas it was too late.


When a huge group of people on twitter start tweeting that they are going to kidnap the twins,  or kidnap Kate and beat the truth out of them etc.   How do we know there isn't a person among them who would go out and act on it?



Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #174 on: August 20, 2018, 09:00:07 AM »
I remember reading an article about a boy who posted that he was going to kill,   he went on to kill,  the people who read his posts wished they had alerted the police to what he was posting,  but alas it was too late.


When a huge group of people on twitter start tweeting that they are going to kidnap the twins,  or kidnap Kate and beat the truth out of them etc.   How do we know there isn't a person among them who would go out and act on it?


Indeed Lace.
Some seem to be excusing the nasty posts made against the family of a missing child.as being of no consequence.

Perhaps some are unaware of just how unremitting and nasty some of these posts were.
You are correct in saying that there is always the danger that one of these threats could have been carried out.
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Offline jassi

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #175 on: August 20, 2018, 09:20:21 AM »

Indeed Lace.
Some seem to be excusing the nasty posts made against the family of a missing child.as being of no consequence.

Perhaps some are unaware of just how unremitting and nasty some of these posts were.
You are correct in saying that there is always the danger that one of these threats could have been carried out.

How would you know how nasty they were?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #176 on: August 20, 2018, 09:21:37 AM »
How would you know how nasty they were?

I believe a selection of said posts were posted on this forum quite some time ago.
Once read, never forgotten!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #177 on: August 20, 2018, 09:23:12 AM »
I believe a selection of said posts were posted on this forum quite some time ago.
Once read, never forgotten!

How do you know they weren't made up by an agent provocateur to stir up feelings ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #178 on: August 20, 2018, 09:25:41 AM »
Perhaps someone should compile a dossier listing all the critical comments aimed at Martin Grime on the internet and hand that to Brunt.
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Offline Erngath

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« Reply #179 on: August 20, 2018, 09:26:27 AM »
How do you know they weren't made up by an agent provocateur to stir up feelings ?

For heaven's sake.
You really are into conspiracies.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.