"Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”

[Miss Taken Identity]

This is a free country with a free press so you are absolutely entitled to do that.  Whether or not Martin Brunt would find that a particularly interesting news story to run on Sky is quite another matter. Why not give it a go though?

This is NOT a free country and we do not have a free press...

[Vertigo Swirl]

This is NOT a free country and we do not have a free press...

Oh yeah, I forgot, we’re living in North Korea, silly me.

[Erngath]

But as a supporter with supporter psychie- you will do doubt condone the abuse of Sr Amaral- his family and children. and Kates wish to have him suffer. She didn't ask that the 'abductor- suspected paedophile gang' should suffer.. strange that.

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Could be there is "sceptic" here who is actually a supporter but pretending to be a sceptic who could actually be one of the collators ?"


Seriously hilarious-  As long as they paid their membership they are very welcome.


You can join too.... 10 dolla mista -me lub- you loooooooong time

Very informative.
Thank you.

[slartibartfast]

So no free speech then?
No right to highlight the appalling behaviour of some trolls.
It was the media who outed Brenda and it was the media who made her the national news.

The media are often contacted when there is an issue which is causing concern.
Badly run hospitals, schools are often brought to the attention of the media by concerned individuals.
Only by highlighting the appalling behaviour of some on social media will any change be made to the completely ineffectual  guidelines.

Whose free speech do you mean?

[Erngath]

Whose free speech do you mean?

The free speech of those who handed the dossier to Sky.
The rights of concerned individuals to share those concerns with whoever will take notice of their concerns.

[slartibartfast]

The free speech of those who handed the dossier to Sky.
The rights of concerned individuals to share those concerns with whoever will take notice of their concerns.

So not Brenda Leyland’s free speech then.

[Erngath]

So not Brenda Leyland’s free speech then.

She had the right of free speech and did exercise that right to an obsessive level. iMO
The subject of her obsession was the family of a missing child who she "hated" according to one of her tweets.
If her obsession and the posts and tweets of others caused alarm to an individual or individuals then they too had the right of free speech and the right to express  their concern to anyone.

[barrier]

The thread title is "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”,go to the Brenda Leyland thread it become's self explanatory,imo of course.

[Brietta]

So not Brenda Leyland’s free speech then.

There is an interesting rejoinder to that from an individual who joined a facebook page set up to excoriate Martin Brunt who commented as follows ...

""It may or may not be so that the McCanns choose not to read Twitter comments, but if I stand in the street and shout hateful comments about a person who is not there, does that make it acceptable?

It is desperately sad that this lady took her own life.
She certainly didn't deserve to die, but wake up people, all the reporter did was politely ask her (on one occasion) about the tweets she sent.
What she did next was entirely her own choice"

Guess what?

My comment was deleted and I have been blocked from the Facebook page.

Ironic that this group of people who thrives on the right to say what they want, however offensive, blocks anyone whose opinion isn't what they want to hear.I think that tells you everything you need to know.... "



Not for the first time I believe have the bastions ~ aka supporters ~  of ' free speech' taken pains to ensure it is applicable only if it applies to them and gone out of their way to censure opinion not in accord with their own.

These bastions or supporters do indeed have a really weird concept of free speech ... in my opinion.

[Alice Purjorick]

There is an interesting rejoinder to that from an individual who joined a facebook page set up to excoriate Martin Brunt who commented as follows ...

""It may or may not be so that the McCanns choose not to read Twitter comments, but if I stand in the street and shout hateful comments about a person who is not there, does that make it acceptable?

It is desperately sad that this lady took her own life.
She certainly didn't deserve to die, but wake up people, all the reporter did was politely ask her (on one occasion) about the tweets she sent.
What she did next was entirely her own choice"

Guess what?

My comment was deleted and I have been blocked from the Facebook page.

Ironic that this group of people who thrives on the right to say what they want, however offensive, blocks anyone whose opinion isn't what they want to hear.I think that tells you everything you need to know.... "



Not for the first time I believe have the bastions ~ aka supporters ~  of ' free speech' taken pains to ensure it is applicable only if it applies to them and gone out of their way to censure opinion not in accord with their own.

These bastions or supporters do indeed have a really weird concept of free speech ... in my opinion.

There are some very familiar but less than desirable character traits referred to in there. IMO

Seen on here none too infrequently one might add IMO
 

[faithlilly]

There is an interesting rejoinder to that from an individual who joined a facebook page set up to excoriate Martin Brunt who commented as follows ...

""It may or may not be so that the McCanns choose not to read Twitter comments, but if I stand in the street and shout hateful comments about a person who is not there, does that make it acceptable?

It is desperately sad that this lady took her own life.
She certainly didn't deserve to die, but wake up people, all the reporter did was politely ask her (on one occasion) about the tweets she sent.
What she did next was entirely her own choice"

Guess what?

My comment was deleted and I have been blocked from the Facebook page.

Ironic that this group of people who thrives on the right to say what they want, however offensive, blocks anyone whose opinion isn't what they want to hear.I think that tells you everything you need to know.... "



Not for the first time I believe have the bastions ~ aka supporters ~  of ' free speech' taken pains to ensure it is applicable only if it applies to them and gone out of their way to censure opinion not in accord with their own.

These bastions or supporters do indeed have a really weird concept of free speech ... in my opinion.

I despise all this Uriah Heap wringing of their hands by supporters.

Before that VT was aired BL told MB that she had been thinking of committing suicide. Does anyone think it was right for Sky to still run it?

[faithlilly]

Martin Brunt knew BL was suicidal , he said so himself at her inquest. Why in all conscience did he then broadcast the doorsteping ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I despise all this Uriah Heap wringing of their hands by supporters.

Before that VT was aired BL told MB that she had been thinking of committing suicide. Does anyone think it was right for Sky to still run it?

Uriah Heep, the Dickens character?  Isn’t he known for his ingratiating manner and scyophancy?  Which supporters do you believe exhibit these characteristics?

[Robittybob1]

Martin Brunt knew BL was suicidal , he said so himself at her inquest. Why in all conscience did he then broadcast the doorsteping ?

Cite please.

[G-Unit]

Apparently one concerned McCann supporter wasn't content with'what the dossier compilers and Brunt had achieved. They felt the need to threaten too;

Today we can disclose some of the appalling comments sent to her. The first states: “Hoping you get beaten so bad you beg for mercy, only to have gasoline thrown on you and set ablaze.”

The next adds: “You have reached the end of your torturing campaign against the McCann family, understand.”

The third message is a direct threat against her life with the sadistic author stating: “Death is waiting and watching for u @sweepyface..Do you feel it????”

The next attack was so disgusting it is unsuitable for publication.

The last message states: “Sweepyface, we’re coming for you. Do you feel us?? The decent kind folk who pray for this family and their sad loss.You go to hell *****.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/169572/Mccann-troll-Brenda-Leyland-driven-to-suicide-after-twitter-death threats