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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #255 on: August 21, 2018, 10:49:23 AM »
Yet one of the Stopthemyths members was a paedophile.

Explain the relevance of that in regard to my original post.
Naming and shaming a convicted paedophile is not the same as accusing innocent named people as paedophiles without any evidence.
If you feel the need to name the former member who was convicted , then I have no objection.

Do you approve of naming and shaming innocent people as paedophiles?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #256 on: August 21, 2018, 10:56:26 AM »
How interesting. You seem to be saying if a person is member of a forum they are responsible for and in agreement with everything posted on that forum. Guilty by association in other words.

No but they are hypocritical to  name another forum in a disparaging way while belonging to a revolting forum  IMO

Do you agree that much on your other forum is disgusting and libellous
Or do you approve of innocent people being named as paedophiles.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #257 on: August 21, 2018, 11:05:45 AM »
Explain the relevance of that in regard to my original post.
Naming and shaming a convicted paedophile is not the same as accusing innocent named people as paedophiles without any evidence.
If you feel the need to name the former member who was convicted , then I have no objection.

Do you approve of naming and shaming innocent people as paedophiles?

I was just noting the irony.

I’m sure a year ago you’d have been up in arms if anyone had as much as suggested that Nessling was a paedophile.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #258 on: August 21, 2018, 11:08:23 AM »
No but they are hypocritical to  name another forum in a disparaging way while belonging to a revolting forum  IMO

Do you agree that much on your other forum is disgusting and libellous
Or do you approve of innocent people being named as paedophiles.

You can say exactly the same about stopthemyths members. They refer to this forum in a disparaging way while belonging to a revolting forum imo.
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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #259 on: August 21, 2018, 11:12:47 AM »
I was just noting the irony.

I’m sure a year ago you’d have been up in arms if anyone had as much as suggested that Nessling was a paedophile.

You are expert at avoiding answering questions.
Full marks for yet again doing so.
Do you approve of innocent named people being named and labelled as paedophiles?

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #260 on: August 21, 2018, 11:13:04 AM »
I was just noting the irony.

I’m sure a year ago you’d have been up in arms if anyone had as much as suggested that Nessling was a paedophile.

The determination to stop him being discussed on here was palpable. When the discussion was allowed, there were desperate attempts to excuse/explain his behaviour and to have the discussion stopped.
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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #261 on: August 21, 2018, 11:18:37 AM »
You can say exactly the same about stopthemyths members. They refer to this forum in a disparaging way while belonging to a revolting forum imo.

Continued deflection.
Obviously you will not condemn the naming and libelling of innocent people as paedophiles, nor the dreadful description of a sweet named little girls photograph as the "Lollita" photograph.
I have no more to say on the subject.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #262 on: August 21, 2018, 11:20:15 AM »
You are expert at avoiding answering questions.
Full marks for yet again doing so.
Do you approve of innocent named people being named and labelled as paedophiles?

Of course not but I’ve seen both sides do it.

I seem to recall sceptics being called paedophile supporters just for pointing out that Hewlett could not have had any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.

On the whole most of the discourse on this case is so immature, especially in the partisan groups, that it’s no wonder individuals don’t want to be identified.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #263 on: August 21, 2018, 11:20:52 AM »
Yet one of the Stopthemyths members was a paedophile.
Please provide a cite for this allegation.  This is my second request.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2018, 11:27:54 AM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #264 on: August 21, 2018, 11:21:50 AM »
The determination to stop him being discussed on here was palpable. When the discussion was allowed, there were desperate attempts to excuse/explain his behaviour and to have the discussion stopped.

I think the "desperation" as you call it was out of respect for his family who must have been suffering terribly.
There were no excuses made for his behaviour.
I suppose all deviant behaviour has to have some form of explanation.
Feel free to discuss him all you want.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #265 on: August 21, 2018, 11:27:12 AM »
Faithlilly your posts will be moderated if you continue to ignore the request for the citation.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #266 on: August 21, 2018, 11:36:07 AM »
I think the "desperation" as you call it was out of respect for his family who must have been suffering terribly.
There were no excuses made for his behaviour.
I suppose all deviant behaviour has to have some form of explanation.
Feel free to discuss him all you want.

Respect seems to work in only one direction in my opinion. Everyone must respect the suffering of the McCanns and the Nesslings, but not the suffering of the families of those who have dared to express opinions which differ from those of the supporters.

Amaral, Grime, O'Doherty, O'Dowd, Sutton, Bennett, Havern, Leyland....to name but a few who 'deserve' to be discussed and criticised.

If you're interested in hypocracy, there's a lot of it about imo.
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Offline Erngath

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #267 on: August 21, 2018, 11:38:40 AM »
Respect seems to work in only one direction in my opinion. Everyone must respect the suffering of the McCanns and the Nesslings, but not the suffering of the families of those who have dared to express opinions which differ from those of the supporters.

Amaral, Grime, O'Doherty, O'Dowd, Sutton, Bennett, Havern, Leyland....to name but a few who 'deserve' to be discussed and criticised.

If you're interested in hypocracy, there's a lot of it about imo.

Still no condemnation of the points raised in my first post.
No more to be said!
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #268 on: August 21, 2018, 11:41:02 AM »
Which post was that - there have been so many ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: "Start by Asking Yourself What is a Supporter and Work on from There”
« Reply #269 on: August 21, 2018, 11:59:16 AM »
Please provide a cite for this allegation.  This is my second request.

The site deleted all his posts when he was convicted but Wayback shows he was there;

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https://web.archive.org/web/20120507022617/http://stopthemyths.prophpbb.com:80/topic2937.html

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-man-avoids-prison-after-downloading-over-40-000-indecent-images-of-children-1-5283183

It's general knowledge that Nessling was Vee8. just google.


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